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Reynard

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Do any statoes know when was the last time the top driver was in a team that finished 3rd?

Not without going and looking things up, but Rosberg was champion in 1982 with Williams only 4th in the constructors.
 

13 rider

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Another one for the knowledgeable Reynard.

Without checking, I think there is something like 250 odd points separating Verrtappen and Perez - is that the biggest points difference between team mates in a season, or has someone managed an even bigger gap?
I would think that has to be a record due to the number of races and the points awarded ,years ago there would be 10 races and 10 points for the win I think
 
Is this the long-awaited sequel to Weekend at Bernies?

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icowden

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Without checking, I think there is something like 250 odd points separating Verrtappen and Perez - is that the biggest points difference between team mates in a season, or has someone managed an even bigger gap?
The Beeb has a nice animated bar chart which really helps show how the season played out in terms of points. Clearly shows how Perez starts out well and then just stops making progress. In the meantime, other drivers start catching Verstappen but he delivers enough, consistently to always keep his progress ahead of everyone else.

It's undeniable that this is a WDC that Max has well earned.
 

icowden

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Surrey
What if they are taking the hit for extra wind tunnel time given 12 months from the new regulations and they've already been restricted?

The question is - how do you measure the hit? Sure, the prize money difference between first and third last year was $18 million which isn't a huge hit for an F1 team, but then you have to factor in the cost in terms of sponsorship and advertising revenue. I find it hard to believe that RB were aiming at anything other than first place.

Perez just started getting some bad luck and then became more and more error prone - failing to stop in his box on the starting grid is an error you might expect from a rookie, not from someone who has been in F1 for 13 years.
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
It was once said in commentary that having the cars so far apart on the grid added further logistical issues to the team's weekend. At least in this respect Sauber have got it nailed.
 

Jody

Stubborn git
The question is - how do you measure the hit? Sure, the prize money difference between first and third last year was $18 million which isn't a huge hit for an F1 team, but then you have to factor in the cost in terms of sponsorship and advertising revenue. I find it hard to believe that RB were aiming at anything other than first place.

Perez just started getting some bad luck and then became more and more error prone - failing to stop in his box on the starting grid is an error you might expect from a rookie, not from someone who has been in F1 for 13 years.

The internetz reckons Sergio brings in around €33 million of sponsorship per year so they would be €15 mil up and have more wind tunnel time to stay comptetive in the new era
 

icowden

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The internetz reckons Sergio brings in around €33 million of sponsorship per year so they would be €15 mil up and have more wind tunnel time to stay comptetive in the new era
It also reckons that Red Bull overall sponsorship is $226m. McLaren currently have $148m, Mercedes $166.9m. Ferrari have more ($246m), but there are various reasons why Ferrari has a different profile to other teams.

That would seem to suggest that team sponsorship is linked to team success, not just driver WDCs - although they help a lot.

I get what you are saying but I don't think RB told Perez to deliberately deliver poor results for most of the season. I think they'd have liked the constructors as well.
 
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