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Im quite disappointed in Wahoo''s QC . Im Im waiting till they finally figure out the issue

With the announcement that Wahoo/Tacx are working on a package so I can use the climb with Tacx products swung the decision to get the Neo . Ill have it setup today and first workout this afternoon.

My 3rd replacement has a slight rumble and vibration at around 23mph ,only done 30miles on it at the moment but I think this one will be returning and asking for a refund
 

JuhaL

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dont worry - if he pushes it you will hear the scream in Finland

hes got a bad knee you know
merry christmas Bob - welcome back in advance
Andy - let us know how you get on
will wait and see how many are in 4 horsemen ride - would be a good comeback ride for the neobike if it arrives - just saying
I hope that i can hear the difference between Santas ho-ho-ho and Bob's ouch-ouch-ouch when it happens. Don't wanna hear last one.
 
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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Tacx Neo, god you boys have had it easy. :laugh:


The instructions for install are not the best and due to supply of various QR kits and no markings, it is a little frustrating. Then came the derailleur rubbing, so modified parts go ^_^

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Tacx supply two thickness washers, which actually go on the otherside of the black spacer. I only needed the thinner washer to move the whole freehub away from Neo plastic body.

First 5 min ride on Zwift, its ridiculously easy to spin up power. compared to the Kickr 18. Ive checked the settings and its FEC. Im going to do a TrainerRoad workout this afternoon, will see how it goes . :okay:
 

JuhaL

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First generation Neo had some issues too with rear derailleur. I thought it was solved this 2nd generation Neo. But good that you find solution all those issues :thumbsup:
 

JuhaL

Guru
And I thought he would stop by your place first on his way south.
I don't know why but traditions in here seems to change some decades ago :blush:. My cousin is been a Santa for some years, maybe i should give one more address to him.
 
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CXRAndy

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First ride Tacx Neo 2
My initial assessment compared to my Kickr 18

Looks and design -- I like the look of the Neo 2, especially with the coloured under body and illumination beneath the unit when being used. The Kickr wasn't an ugly design, more rugged/industrial looking, whilst the Neo is sleeker in design

Assembly---, both units reasonably easy to setup, but the Neo loses because it supplies a variety of QR items which aren't indexed or mark on the parts, so initial assembly requires dismantle of mounts if your bike has disc brakes or thru axles. Then comes the derailleur rubbing on the easiest cog on the cass. Again Tacx didnt make it clear and a quick Google search revealed you had to remove the end cap freehub, slide off black sleeve and fit on of two washers. Comments on the web suggested that both washers had to be fitted but that meant the pawls on the freehub were half outside the housing. I used the thinner washer and that provided the clearance for the rear derailleur.

Performance -- The Neo is uber smooth and quiet in operation. The Kickr was nearly as quiet until it began to fail-again-arrrgh. The power readings going on feel and heart rate number are very similar, so I'd expect reliable accurate numbers overall. Power delivery or the way I could increase power was very much easier than the Kickr where you needed a bit of effort to increase the flywheel inertia. The Neo 2 much easier to increase power.

Erg Performance-- This is where I was disappointed, the Neo 2 ERG mode control in Trainer-Road is virtually non existent. There is no increase in resistance when the routine jumps from 120W to 280W. I even dropped out of ERG mode to check and there was little to feel ERG or resistance mode. I had to change gears to get the correct cadence and resistance to match the power I needed to produce for the workout. This became quite distracting and ultimately more fatigue inducing, as I would over and under shoot target Watts constantly. The Kickr has superb ERG control, you leave it in one gear and just pedal at the cadence you want, the resistance is set. If you slow cadence, resistance goes up and vice-versa increasing cadence. The power transitions with the Wahoo are almost instant from one power level to the next. I had updated the Neo before wokouts to latest 015 firmware. Tacx need to do some work with the ERG control. It maybe TR as well, but I doubt it.- there a few comments on the web about Tacx ERG issues.

Overall-day one, satisfied and hopefully it will remain a reliable unit which I'll adapt to its little quirks of use.
 
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theboxers

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I don't know why but traditions in here seems to change some decades ago :blush:. My cousin is been a Santa for some years, maybe i should give one more address to him.
I did a few years as Santa for a group of Deaf Children, I had 2 brothers who were severely limited in hearing. The look of awe and joy when you turn up at the party and start handing out presents is fantastic.

I'd recommend evetybody to do it at least once to a group of kids not your own. :santa:
 
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