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I'm thinking about becoming an anti-vaxxer... just to give the other two some company.

Where do i start?
Remember you have to think for yourself ... work it out for yourself ....

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I'm thinking about becoming an anti-vaxxer... just to give the other two some company.

Where do i start?
Study the assembled works of Piers Corbyn and David Icke maybe?

They should point you to some 'interesting' things you can research on the WWW
make certain not to look at any stuff done by proper science people - they can;t be trusted

May as well have a go at Flat Earth while you are at it.

Naturally - before you start - ensure that there are no wifi or mobile phone signals in your house
and get a shield to mount in front of you screen to protect from the radiation from that
(note - be careful after dark - light bulbs are know to emit radiation between IR and UV frequancies!)
in fact better move house to somewhere away from the masts
Not sure how you stop Radio 1 or Radio 2 signals?? Have they been properly tested for safety around people???? Radio 4 is probably OK

Let us know how you get on - if you think it is safe to use you computer
In fact maybe stop using electricity at all - those electromagnetic waves can;t be doing you any good!!!
 

Johnno260

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Study the assembled works of Piers Corbyn and David Icke maybe?

They should point you to some 'interesting' things you can research on the WWW
make certain not to look at any stuff done by proper science people - they can;t be trusted

May as well have a go at Flat Earth while you are at it.

Naturally - before you start - ensure that there are no wifi or mobile phone signals in your house
and get a shield to mount in front of you screen to protect from the radiation from that
(note - be careful after dark - light bulbs are know to emit radiation between IR and UV frequancies!)
in fact better move house to somewhere away from the masts
Not sure how you stop Radio 1 or Radio 2 signals?? Have they been properly tested for safety around people???? Radio 4 is probably OK

Let us know how you get on - if you think it is safe to use you computer
In fact maybe stop using electricity at all - those electromagnetic waves can;t be doing you any good!!!

Mark Steele sells wifi shields haha
 

MontyVeda

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Not sure how you stop Radio 1 or Radio 2 signals?? Have they been properly tested for safety around people???? Radio 4 is probably OK
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I listen to BBC 6music and have it on good authority that both Radio1 and Radio2 were closed down years ago. Shame really as I used to enjoy a bit of DLT :sad:

I've been listening to a lot of R4 but I reckon that's a bit too pro-vax for the new me... so will probably avoid that. It's just a Govt properganda machine anyhoo.
 
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I listen to BBC 6music and have it on good authority that both Radio1 and Radio2 were closed down years ago. Shame really as I used to enjoy a bit of DLT :sad:

I've been listening to a lot of R4 but I reckon that's a bit too pro-vax for the new me... so will probably avoid that. It's just a Govt properganda machine anyhoo.
Your getin their but two many punturations in you're post
 

Johnno260

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Ajax Bay

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There is clear evidence showing deaths tailing off when the vaccination programme kicked in, that’s the last thing that should be halted.
Covid is also more deadly than the flu, if anything it will hopefully just become an annual vaccination like the Flu.
Johnno - on your first point, don't confuse correlation with causation (as @mjr is wont to say). It could just as likely be that a combination of natural immunity (by previous infection) plus the effect of mass vaccination (over 12s) has curtailed the increase in cases: the susceptible population has shrunk. Recall that 10M cases have been recorded since July and the relationship between recorded cases and ONS infected data suggests this is likely 20M with some natural immunity (waned to a greater or lesser extent).
Dix is arguing that continued MASS vaccination should be halted (and JCVI is with him on that, at present). The national annual flu vaccination programme is not 'mass vaccination'. In autumn 2019 it was 65s and over (I think) and that threshold has "temporarily" dropped to 50, plus children 11-16 and a list of other special cases (see link).
I suggest that it's entirely reasonable to plan for a COVID-19 booster programme to operate for (say) all over 50 (plus CEV et al), starting some time in 2022 when we have better data on waning rates.
If more people die of flu each year than die of COVID-19 from now on does that mean that "Covid is more deadly than flu"? Someone way more qualified than I will be able to let us know.
 

Johnno260

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Johnno - on your first point, don't confuse correlation with causation (as @mjr is wont to say). It could just as likely be that a combination of natural immunity (by previous infection) plus the effect of mass vaccination (over 12s) has curtailed the increase in cases: the susceptible population has shrunk. Recall that 10M cases have been recorded since July and the relationship between recorded cases and ONS infected data suggests this is likely 20M with some natural immunity (waned to a greater or lesser extent).
Dix is arguing that continued MASS vaccination should be halted (and JCVI is with him on that, at present). The national annual flu vaccination programme is not 'mass vaccination'. In autumn 2019 it was 65s and over (I think) and that threshold has "temporarily" dropped to 50, plus children 11-16 and a list of other special cases (see link).
I suggest that it's entirely reasonable to plan for a COVID-19 booster programme to operate for (say) all over 50 (plus CEV et al), starting some time in 2022 when we have better data on waning rates.
If more people die of flu each year than die of COVID-19 from now on does that mean that "Covid is more deadly than flu"? Someone way more qualified than I will be able to let us know.

Thanks Ajax your posts are always informative.

I misread and replied badly to Dix, obviously mass vaccination can’t continue forever, we just need to boost people annually who require it, and offer vaccination to those who decide to take it, but only if the data says it’s required.

I would like them to post some more information about natural protection as I have seen some articles suggest it can wane quickly and one from John Hopkins said 1-5 may not receive anything.

I would also like to see better communication in the future, I think that’s a huge lesson to be learnt from this whole situation, posts like yours and some others have been more helpful and informative.
 
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