Where have all the anti-vaxxers gone?

[classic33]

Our friends and their children have all tested positive this afternoon ..... for a cold ..... we’ve all just had a barbie in the rain at ours ,,, no doubt our lot will also test positive for a cold in due course ....
Wish there was a daily test for heart disease ..... then maybe I would not be staring at the end of my life ...
But you just all enjoy your Covid obsession and forget about the 1500 that die every day ... without covid ... every day ...

There's around 1,200 die every year in the UK due to epilepsy.

I don't have an obsession with covid, but the last two years I've considered a minor inconvenience. If people want to ignore the rules, as they are, can I claim against them for extending the time I've to wait until there's sufficient slack, and staff, in the system to allow the routine appointments to restart.

 

[DCBassman]

One thing to be clear about: it does not matter who you are, or what your qualifications are. None of it guarantees 'intelligence'. So opinions backed by "I know, I'm trained and qualified" are never the final say-so. A good pointer, maybe. Track records count fir a lot here, to a point.
Personally, there's no downside to vacs as far as I can see. And, as previously mentioned, almost all health workers in the NHS are required to have certain vacs in order to be employed. Why is this any different?

 

[C R]

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Personally, there's no downside to vacs as far as I can see. And, as previously mentioned, almost all health workers in the NHS are required to have certain vacs in order to be employed. Why is this any different?

Because something something ma freedoms something the nazis something something.

 

[DCBassman]

Because something something ma freedoms something the nazis something something.

Exactly...

 

[MartinQ]

Because something something ma freedoms something the nazis something something.

3/10. Far too coherent. Make sure you watch
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59853848
.... or maybe not ...

 

[cougie uk]

Just as something shares initial symptoms with a cold, that doesn’t make it a cold, your incredulity doesn’t make it a cold either.

The latest variant may hopefully be less severe than delta but it could still hold long term implications for many.

I personally know a few people with long Covid and it’s no laughing matter, one is still having to use a wheelchair due to fatigue issues and heart/lung damage.

No one is saying other deaths are to be ignored, but hey the longer restrictions are put in place and the longer people don’t work together to beat this, means more hospital appointments delayed for other illnesses, my daughter who is 6 is still waiting to see a cardiologist due to a condition pre Covid, but you don’t see me whining about it.

Our friends and their children have all tested positive this afternoon ..... for a cold ..... we’ve all just had a barbie in the rain at ours ,,, no doubt our lot will also test positive for a cold in due course ....
Wish there was a daily test for heart disease ..... then maybe I would not be staring at the end of my life ...
But you just all enjoy your Covid obsession and forget about the 1500 that die every day ... without covid ... every day ...

Sorry - weren't you hospitalised for COVID not so long ago ?
You know that virus you didn't take seriously with ignoring the rules in work and seeing family etc ?
Why didn't you refuse their assistance and tell them to get on with their normal work instead ?

Meanwhile the rest of us that have been sensible and taken precautions miss out on seeing family.
Because we are trying to reduce demand on the NHS caused by more ignorant members of society.

 

[Mo1959]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOlEYcd1nyI

 

[winjim]

One thing to be clear about: it does not matter who you are, or what your qualifications are. None of it guarantees 'intelligence'. So opinions backed by "I know, I'm trained and qualified" are never the final say-so. A good pointer, maybe. Track records count fir a lot here, to a point.
Personally, there's no downside to vacs as far as I can see. And, as previously mentioned, almost all health workers in the NHS are required to have certain vacs in order to be employed. Why is this any different?

Hopefully somebody who's trained and qualified should be able to explain how and why they've come to a particular conclusion, and to cite the sources and evidence they've used.

Public engagement and communication is an important part of clinical practice these days. And although specific expertise in any field may be limited, many skills are transferable between disciplines. How to read a paper, evaluate the reliability of sources, assess evidence, know which guidelines to follow etc.

But 'I am trained and qualified' is not a good argument in and of itself.

 

[Johnno260]

One thing to be clear about: it does not matter who you are, or what your qualifications are. None of it guarantees 'intelligence'. So opinions backed by "I know, I'm trained and qualified" are never the final say-so. A good pointer, maybe. Track records count fir a lot here, to a point.
Personally, there's no downside to vacs as far as I can see. And, as previously mentioned, almost all health workers in the NHS are required to have certain vacs in order to be employed. Why is this any different?

I’m pretty sure the armed forces have mandatory vaccinations as well? Yet you don’t see people complaining about those.

 

[winjim]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOlEYcd1nyI

And in today's episode of 'men talk over women'...

 

[midlife]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOlEYcd1nyI

That was covered a few pages back in this thread.

 

[Mo1959]

That was covered a few pages back in this thread.

Another one that wants to stop mass vaccination and start to live with it and look for other methods. Sounds sensible to me.

 

[Johnno260]

Another one that wants to stop mass vaccination and start to live with it and look for other methods. Sounds sensible to me.


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Why would you end a vaccination programme that’s been shown to reduce deaths? There is clear evidence showing deaths tailing off when the vaccination programme kicked in, that’s the last thing that should be halted.

Covid is also more deadly than the flu, if anything it will hopefully just become an annual vaccination like the Flu.

 

[Profpointy]

My daughter has a PhD in English and uses the title Dr when she is travelling because it sometimes results in her being upgraded.

She is reconsidering her policy since there was a medical emergency on a train she was a passenger on and the train manager came to ask for her assistance. She was able to quote some comforting lines of poetry though.

A pal of mine with a PhD had heard the same thing about free upgrades, but foresaw being asked for assistance and being rumbled when he asked " what seems to be the trouble with your laser?"

 

[MontyVeda]

I'm thinking about becoming an anti-vaxxer... just to give the other two some company.

Where do i start?