Rocky
Hello decadence
If you have a degree and doctorate from Oxford you put MA DPhil after your name….but who is mad Phil?
Where have all the anti-vaxxers gone?
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Rocky
Hello decadence
What are the risks? Could you quantify them? Can you also let us know how many young children have died of Covid and how many have suffered serious side effects from Covid. It would be very helpful if you could provide some robust evidence to support your views.
(I suggest you look at US figures as the UK isn't vaccinating 5-11 year olds at the moment).
cougie uk
Guru
Absolute fkwits. Some people are just too awful.
Rocky
Hello decadence
The New England Journal of Medicine has just published an evaluation of vaccinating children (5-11) against Covid.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116298?query=featured_home
Its conclusion: 'A Covid-19 vaccination regimen consisting of two 10-μg doses of BNT162b2 administered 21 days apart was found to be safe, immunogenic, and efficacious in children 5 to 11 years of age'.
Why would you vaccinate these children?
Although Covid-19 is generally milder in children than in adults, severe illness and long-term complications, including multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C), can occur after the primary infection. School-age children represent a high proportion of Covid-19 cases, and they may play an important role in the transmission of SARS-CoV-2, including spread of the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (or delta) variant. At the end of September 2021, persons younger than 18 years of age represented more than a quarter of weekly U.S. cases and 1.6 to 4.2% of cumulative hospitalizations. Covid-19–associated hospitalizations among children have increased steadily since early July 2021 in the United States; prevalence among 5-to-11-year-old children reached an all-time high of 1.1 per 100,000 population in late September. The pandemic has also interrupted education and has adversely affected children’s social and emotional development and mental health. Therefore, the availability of safe and efficacious vaccines for school-age children is critical.
TLDR - yes it's safe to vaccinate 5-11 year olds and it is a good idea to do this
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116298?query=featured_home
Its conclusion: 'A Covid-19 vaccination regimen consisting of two 10-μg doses of BNT162b2 administered 21 days apart was found to be safe, immunogenic, and efficacious in children 5 to 11 years of age'.
Why would you vaccinate these children?
Although Covid-19 is generally milder in children than in adults, severe illness and long-term complications, including multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C), can occur after the primary infection. School-age children represent a high proportion of Covid-19 cases, and they may play an important role in the transmission of SARS-CoV-2, including spread of the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (or delta) variant. At the end of September 2021, persons younger than 18 years of age represented more than a quarter of weekly U.S. cases and 1.6 to 4.2% of cumulative hospitalizations. Covid-19–associated hospitalizations among children have increased steadily since early July 2021 in the United States; prevalence among 5-to-11-year-old children reached an all-time high of 1.1 per 100,000 population in late September. The pandemic has also interrupted education and has adversely affected children’s social and emotional development and mental health. Therefore, the availability of safe and efficacious vaccines for school-age children is critical.
TLDR - yes it's safe to vaccinate 5-11 year olds and it is a good idea to do this
KnittyNorah
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That's disgusting. Utter lowlife, sewage slime puts that sort of thing up.
classic33
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Ireland started vaccinating 5 - 12 year olds this week.
Alex321
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Indeed. But unlike many of the doctors in your list, he doesn't pretend to be a medical doctor or to have any "special" insight into COVID or the vaccines.
[EDIT] Just seen your post above accepting that the list is a joke. Thank you.
winjim
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When my wife came home from her first vaccine over a year ago our five year old asked when she could have hers and it was absolutely heartbreaking. It still is.
Landsurfer
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Our friends and their children have all tested positive this afternoon ..... for a cold ..... we’ve all just had a barbie in the rain at ours ,,, no doubt our lot will also test positive for a cold in due course ....
Wish there was a daily test for heart disease ..... then maybe I would not be staring at the end of my life ...
But you just all enjoy your Covid obsession and forget about the 1500 that die every day ... without covid ... every day ...
Wish there was a daily test for heart disease ..... then maybe I would not be staring at the end of my life ...
But you just all enjoy your Covid obsession and forget about the 1500 that die every day ... without covid ... every day ...
glasgowcyclist
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A bunch of them have appeared in Glasgow today. Although quite how the report can describe it as an unplanned march when they have brought so many placards and banners I don’t know.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...anti-lockdown-protest-sparks-police-response/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...anti-lockdown-protest-sparks-police-response/
Police have been called to manage an “unplanned” anti-lockdown demonstration in Scotland’s largest city.
The protest is believed to have been organised by Scotland Against Lockdown, a group that runs campaigns against mandatory facemasks, the Scottish and UK Governments’ Coronavirus Act 2020, social distancing and mandatory vaccines, according to its social media pages.
The event mainly focused on protesting against the vaccine pass scheme in place across the UK.
Johnno260
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I have seen that image shared a lot, one by an anti vax relative.
Anti vaxers are really playing the victim card at the moment, some are even putting yellow stars on and comparing themselves to Jews during the holocaust which is beyond disgusting.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ndate-holocaust-republicans-b1957233.html?amp
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Nobody gets upgraded because of a title at the least a doctor. It's a long held myth.
Upgrading works on algorithm even if someone has more points than someone else that has been upgraded. The exception is an incident on board and there is space up front and chief steward and Captain can make a decision. It is done as a service recovery.
If medical help is needed an announcement is made for a medical doctor or nurse to assist. 20 years ago Phd grew rapidly in grievous studies, bible colleges and degree mills. No airline worth its salt will take that salutation seriously.
Johnno260
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Just as something shares initial symptoms with a cold, that doesn’t make it a cold, your incredulity doesn’t make it a cold either.
The latest variant may hopefully be less severe than delta but it could still hold long term implications for many.
I personally know a few people with long Covid and it’s no laughing matter, one is still having to use a wheelchair due to fatigue issues and heart/lung damage.
No one is saying other deaths are to be ignored, but hey the longer restrictions are put in place and the longer people don’t work together to beat this, means more hospital appointments delayed for other illnesses, my daughter who is 6 is still waiting to see a cardiologist due to a condition pre Covid, but you don’t see me whining about it.
winjim
Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
Nobody I work with is doing that and it's disrespectful to suggest that they are.
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