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AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
And we get crazy results like Bayern 9-2 Zagreb. And Aston Villa beating Young Boys 3-0 away. This is supposed to be the best football in the world.

Both those teams get a mention in the article above. They are always going to get entry to the competition but never progress. But all the time dominating their leagues due to the CL cash.

Agreed.

When I first read about the new Champions League format it seemed like pretty much the blueprint for the much derided European Super League, which lets face it has been what the Champions League is anyway for some time.

Domestic football as well know it (in the top flights anyway) is going to become almost non existent I reckon.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Agreed.

When I first read about the new Champions League format it seemed like pretty much the blueprint for the much derided European Super League, which lets face it has been what the Champions League is anyway for some time.

Domestic football as well know it (in the top flights anyway) is going to become almost non existent I reckon.

I'm old enough to remember when the season kicked off every supporter could carry some hope of success. This might extend to Christmas. In cups we relished feisty encounters when minnows took on the big boys. Today both sides often stroll through cup ties as though it is an exhibition game.

All that has gone.

If a European Super League meant we lost the "big six" from the PL I would welcome that new league. The result should be that promoted clubs would have a greater chance of survival, a competition that a host of clubs might win or be in with a shout for months.

What we have today has wrecked the domestic game.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
What we have today has wrecked the domestic game.

The financial success and search for unimaginable wealth has also put pressure on other sports too at junior level. Which we will regret in a few years.

Too many very good sporty young children get swallowed up by the professional academy system, with almost zero chance of success. But they are prevented from playing other sports by their clubs.

It means that local rugby, cricket and other smaller sports struggle for junior participation because far too many very talented sporty kids are locked into a system which will reward very few players.

I coach an U14 rugby team, the catchment is very football oriented, so loads of good lads can’t play because they are on the books of some team looking for a big break. If I hear another story of some lad who has had a trial for Leighton Orient I will cry.

So many potentially excellent players are being lost to sport in general, as football will just churn them in at U8 and spit them out at U16.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
I'm old enough to remember when the season kicked off every supporter could carry some hope of success. This might extend to Christmas. In cups we relished feisty encounters when minnows took on the big boys. Today both sides often stroll through cup ties as though it is an exhibition game.

All that has gone.

If a European Super League meant we lost the "big six" from the PL I would welcome that new league. The result should be that promoted clubs would have a greater chance of survival, a competition that a host of clubs might win or be in with a shout for months.

What we have today has wrecked the domestic game.

I don't even bother looking at the top two in Scotland, I don't think anyone other than Old Firm fans do either.

For all it's derided, you take those two out and our top flight is very competitive. Especially when you've got basket case owners who don't seem to have a clue what they're doing and make mental decisions - Aberdeen, Hibs and Dundee United being notable cases.

The same could be said of any league to be honest when you take the big guns out. But then, what happens when they go? The mid-table teams will eventually take the place of the big clubs in the top leagues and we'll have the same situation in another cycle of football, 20 years or so I reckon.

The way things are, football has a monopoly as the world's most popular (and accessible) sport, and younger fans are used to a diet of top stars. To a certain extent, I can't blame them, that's how things are with the information age, so I reckon it behooves us old schoolers (and I'm only 38 so not exactly one of those) to keep impressing the importance of supporting your local club and also non-league football.

I live close enough to North Shields FC that I can hear them on match day and it'd be a shame to lose that. In a further nostalgia trip, The Football Pink has recently relaunched in the North East. I think there's a print version, but the digital option is cool.
 
Location
Cheshire
I'm still fairly positive about what nick the games in. Just got back from the far east and Prem games still as popular as ever. Bit of an obsession out there showing Madrid v Barca classics from that 'golden' period?
The EFL games are a great watch and I don't see League, FA, Community Shield cups vanishing like a lot of folk do. Big money footy will probably get worse but the rest won't disappear, too many proper footy fans about.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
7 so far in the first half of the Arsenal game, which is a record.

If you want to see refereeing incompetence on another level, check out the highlights of St. Mirren v Killie yesterday. And this was from a ref who's viewed as being quality by the powers that be and been given European games to oversee. He had clearly lost control of the game within 20 minutes and it only got worse from there.

My own bias aside, it was unbelievable what was getting being picked up for a look by VAR and what wasn't.

Sky Sports' "Ref Watch" backs the opinion that St. Mirren should have been down to 9 men in the first half.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...sallowed-goal-drama-at-st-mirren-v-kilmarnock
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
I'm still fairly positive about what nick the games in. Just got back from the far east and Prem games still as popular as ever. Bit of an obsession out there showing Madrid v Barca classics from that 'golden' period?
The EFL games are a great watch and I don't see League, FA, Community Shield cups vanishing like a lot of folk do. Big money footy will probably get worse but the rest won't disappear, too many proper footy fans about.

I hadn't heard/seen that people thought the cup tournaments would disappear? That really would be nuts!
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
I really haven't been following European football so after the Sellick result, I thought I'd check the table - expecting to see 4 or 5 teams.

WTF?
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
I really haven't been following European football so after the Sellick result, I thought I'd check the table - expecting to see 4 or 5 teams.

WTF?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cyx693606wro

It's bonkers.
 

PaulSB

Squire
You're not wrong there.

How can you have a league wherte each team plays less than a quarter of the other teams in the league? How on earth do you ensure that each team gets similar quality of opposition?
How? Oh, it's very easy.
  1. Chuck EUFA a wedge of cash.
  2. Suggest there could be more cash if there were more games on TV
  3. Suggest there might be even more cash if some clubs regularly feature on TV
  4. Chuck EUFA another wedge of cash
  5. Take care to give the illusion of competition
 
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