SPLIT FROM Incident & Outcome

[classic33]

I have nothing invested on this, so I can't really get too worried about it.

I see that the thread dates from 1842 or similar.

All in all, it is so far divorced from what I've seen of policing in the UK and so full of allegegations of simply dreadful and criminal behaviour by the police that I find I can't read it without a wry smile and the thought that if this was quite as you describe it you wouldn't be restricting yourself to a cycling forum.

If it happened as you describe it, you will succeed in getting it sorted and getting the malefactors (in the police) identified and prosecuted. If it didn't happen as you describe it, I wish you well but suggest you stick in future to alien civilisations putting things up your backside and messing with your head. You'll always get a lot of buy-in with that stuff.

Either way, you do seem to be lining in interesting times.

You will have course noted that it wasn't me that re-opened it. You say allegations, I can say written proof, provided by the officer concerned & his superiors.

You can live in your fantasy world, police it as you seem able, that doesn't concern me. You can also continue to use your best asset to its fullest extent. Its what you seem to be best at. Matter was invesigated and resolved at local level, the mistake I'll not make again. But the findings of that investigation are in a folder, with the rest of the paperwork that was printed off.

Not confined to just a cycling forum either
http://www.policeuk.com/forum/index.php?/topic/9384-false-details/?hl=mixymadman#entry310968
On there I had an ex police officer asking for details of an ongoing invesigation. That thread cannot be found.

 

[classic33]

Regarding everything you've said here, I can only relay that if it is all accurate it shows a shocking level of misconduct in a public office at the minimum, and you should be back on to the police complaints. IPCC or professional standards, it really doesn't matter.

Given what you accuse, it's not appropriate for a local investigation by the same station and it wouldn't be allowed. They also wouldn't care if three years have passed.

County Police force consider the matter closed. There's disbelief that it did happen & I've been told what I can do on here with regards myself, I responded.
Log Number as given when I was informed that he'd failed the roadside test, but they let him continue home is FA/1626-25-03-2005. That number along with the vehicle registration number is firmly implanted in my mind, no need to go & look it up.

 

[Boris Bajic]

Take Coppercyclist's advice. Go straight to the IPCC.

The allegations you make are grave.

The conduct, if it happened, is outrageous.

You know the dates, the names and the detail. You have a file.

You owe it to society to right these wrongs.

 

[Rancid]

The conduct, if it happened, is outrageous.

its enough to make the skin crawl.

 

[classic33]

Take Coppercyclist's advice. Go straight to the IPCC.

The allegations you make are grave.

The conduct, if it happened, is outrageous.

You know the dates, the names and the detail. You have a file.

You owe it to society to right these wrongs.

Already been, if you could be bothered to read. It was passed back to the force concerned to investigate.

 

[CopperCyclist]

Already been, if you could be bothered to read. It was passed back to the force concerned to investigate.

Allegations of that nature can't be investigated locally. That's more for impoliteness or other allegations.

Your type of allegations cannot be locally investigated, so they either misunderstood, or the independent investigators found the allegations wanting and passed it back to force as a dissatisfaction of service complaint.

If it's the first, make your complaint again to the IPCC.

 

[classic33]

I'll give it another go. But I'm not to hopeful their response will be different to last time.

 

[glenn forger]

Take Coppercyclist's advice. Go straight to the IPCC.

The allegations you make are grave.

The conduct, if it happened, is outrageous.

You know the dates, the names and the detail. You have a file.

You owe it to society to right these wrongs.

read the thread you idiot.

 

[Boris Bajic]

read the thread you idiot.

Ooops! I didn't know I was meant to do that. Do I have to read all of it?

Bother!

 

[glenn forger]

So the driver wasn't the daughter, but the onus would be on her to tax and insure the vehicle, so there are quite a few offences here.

 

[classic33]

This was considered to be the best they could do.

Dear Mr ...........This letter concerns your appeal against West Yorkshire Police which we
received on 24 November 2009.
The decision that your appeal relates to was given on 22 October 2009.
Your appeal was received more than 28 days after that decision. The
IPCC cannot usually accept appeals more than 28 days after a decision,
but we do have a very limited ability to consider appeals made late due
to 'special circumstances'.
"Special circumstances" are defined as any event where the appellant has
made all reasonable efforts, including making allowances for seasonal
delays in the postal service, to submit their appeal and any delay has
been outside of their control.
In order to be able to decide whether I can consider your appeal I must
receive from you within 7 days from the date of this letter an
explanation of why we have received your appeal late. I will then
consider your explanation and inform you whether I am able to continue
with your appeal.
If you have any questions please contact me.
Yours sincerely

Casework Administration
Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)
Oaklands House
Washway road
SALE
M33 6FS
TEL : 0161 246 8584
E-Mail : @ipcc.gsi.gov.uk

 

[classic33]

So the driver wasn't the daughter, but the onus would be on her to tax and insure the vehicle, so there are quite a few offences here.

The driver was the boyfriend of the owner, although on the night he wasn't. It was his car. If that makes sense.

 

[glenn forger]

Fobbed off by the cops then get called an alien abduction fantasist by some Internet clock lord.

 

[glenn forger]

The driver was the boyfriend of the owner, although on the night he wasn't. It was his car. If that makes sense.

Gotcha, right. the loose end is the motivation, I'd usually go for incompetence over corruption but there are too many elements to your experience, especially the veiled threats.

 

[classic33]

Dear Mr

You can make a complaint directly to the police force concerned or through the IPCC or another advice organisation. Whatever the route, all complaints, by law, must be recorded by the police force itself.
If you want to make a complaint you can:
* Go into any police station and ask for your complaint to be recorded. Done
* Contact any police force via phone, email or post.
* Contact your local Citizens Advice Bureau, Racial Equality Council, Neighbourhood Warden, Youth Offending Team or Probation Service, all of whom can provide information.
* Contact a solicitor or your MP and ask them to make a complaint for you.
* Nominate a person to act on your behalf (they must have your written consent).
* Write to the Chief Constable or Commissioner of the police service concerned, or to the police authority.
* Contact the Independent Police Complaints Commission at:
90 High Holborn
London, WC1V 6BH
Tel: 08453 002 002 (local rate)
Email: enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk Done

We will pass the details of your complaint to the police force concerned.
As well as your name, address and contact details, the main things that your complaint should cover are:
* What happened.
* When it happened.
* Who was involved.
* What was said or done.
* Whether there were any witnesses other than yourself and the person serving with the police.
* Where the witnesses can be contacted, if known.
* Details of any damage or injury which took place.
Kind regards
Customer Services Team
Independent Police Complaints Commission
020 7166 3000
www.ipcc.gov.uk