SPLIT FROM Incident & Outcome

[classic33]

If you are not satisfied with the outcome of the internal police complaints-handing, you are entitled to take it back to the IPCC.

Given thats its now two years since the response from the police saying that no officer remembered speaking to me, I considered that the matter had closed. Also chose to have the matter resolved at a local level. In the end up it was a bit like "On The Beat" starring the late Norman Wisdom. With ever more senior officers coming out to see me.

It became clear that the police were embarrassed with what had been allowed to happen & what some officers had done to me, no names given, & that they were now closing ranks, I left it to internal affairs & Professional Standards to sort out.

My reason for posting the details of what happenned were that I could almost feel the frustration in what Magnatom was saying in one thread & to keep the thread this first appeared in going. Something tells me he wants as many as possible.

A bit taken back by the result of posting it though.

 

[the snail]

A bit taken back by the result of posting it though.

The original incident sounds nasty, lucky to walk away from it. The behaviour of the police sounds criminal, if they covered up and then tried to intimidate you, they should go to prison

 

[classic33]

Orional was bad enough as you say, however the way in which the police acted afterwards towards me got my "back up" to say the least. It only made me fight harder to get answers from them.

None of the officers with whom I spoke remember saying anything to me, as a result the police were unable to do anything, about their actions. They know who they are, however I was told that they were unable to pass that information onto me. I already had four names, which I didn't tell them.

The other interesting thing I found out last week. One of the officers involved read this post on the origional thread.

 

[asterix]

classic33, this happened in Tunisia, right?

 

[classic33]

classic33, this happened in Tunisia, right?

No, in the UK, just two counties away from your location

 

[Tenorman]

No, in the UK, just two counties away from your location

Would that be north, south or west? If south it would be worryingly close to me, and I already have a pretty low opinion of some of the local plod!

 

[classic33]

Well, if you go East or West you'll end up in either the North Sea or the Irish Sea before you get to a second county.
Historically its the same county, which was split into three ridings. I think your three counties away from his(asterixs') location.

As for a low opinion of some of the police, given How they left me feeling I don't feel my opinion could go any lower. A point made when I was asked to take part in a "customer satisfaction survey". How the answers were received at HQ I don't know

 

[As Easy As Riding A Bike]

The other interesting thing I found out last week. One of the officers involved read this post on the origional thread.

How do you know that?

 

[classic33]

How do you know that?

Handing in a bike (in good condition), that had been found, to the police, he commented on the fact that he'd seen it.

I still see some of those involved from time to time. Times such as this when I was handing the bike in.

 

[asterix]

No, in the UK, just two counties away from your location

Too close for comfort..

 

[JoysOfSight]

Makes you wonder - for the many riders who have video now, would you come out with it immediately, to stop them messing you around, or keep it to yourself and let the police really hang themselves (i.e. after you have it in writing from someone senior that nobody attended, send the video of them attending to the press).

I suppose it depends what you want to achieve.

 

[classic33]

Makes you wonder - for the many riders who have video now, would you come out with it immediately, to stop them messing you around, or keep it to yourself and let the police really hang themselves (i.e. after you have it in writing from someone senior that nobody attended, send the video of them attending to the press).

I suppose it depends what you want to achieve.

Given that I was fully intending to take the case(collision) to court, to have the police turn round & tell you that they never attended the scene wouldn't have been very helpful. Minor break in the chain of evidence at the least.

When the calls started I just wanted to know why the person(s) making the calls were doing so & what they were trying to achieve. Being told that you'd "be thrown in a cell" simply for wanting the driver details doesn't help either. The latter from the officer who attended on the night, who later denied ever having spoken to me & offerred his log book, in evidence, showing the night in question. Which ironically put him where he said he'd never been. Police call log, obtained later also put him at the scene

They would not have taken that kind of behaviour from me, so why should I have to accept it from them.

Had it gone to court then he would have had to account for both his whereabouts on the night, logbook discrepancies and why/how he never spoke to me at any time. He did give me the details as given by the driver on the night gave him. Also spoke to him at the station, which is when I was told I'd "be thrown in a cell" simply for wanting the driver details. Strong verbal reminder given at the same time that I wasn't the detective in the room, he was. Reply to that was simple. So long as the police withold the information then I'd continue to dig for more on my own. At this stage he had the driver details but refused to pass them on.

 

[classic33]

Same junction two years & three days later.

 

[Ste T.]

Funnily enough, last night I was watching a recording of channel 4's Red Riding.

Looks like you got off lightly. Who knows how far this corruption goes.

 

[Valy]

Jesus... that is beneath the dirt. Should be hung up by their pea sized balls.