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Drago

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Rumours circulation that three teams are in breach of the cost cap for 2022. I'm praying Fezza, McLaren and Mercedes are among them after their high and mighty opinions about the level of punishment Red Bull got away with for 2021 accounting charlie-foxtrot.

It would be particularly arrogant in Ferraris case considering how lightly they got off with no sporting penalty following their confidential engine infringement punishment for 2019, so fingers crossed.
 
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Drago said:
Rumours circulation that three teams are in breach of the cost cap for 2022. I'm praying Fezza, McLaren and Mercedes are among them after their high and mighty opinions about the level of punishment Red Bull got away with for 2021 accounting charlie-foxtrot.
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If they are then I suspect that they will look at the punishment doled out to Red Bull and just go spending crazy.
 
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If they are then I suspect that they will look at the punishment doled out to Red Bull and just go spending crazy.
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some of them have been side stepping the cost cap according to rumour, those that are running other projects as well as F1, it is rumoured that they have been putting out F1 work to their other projects and putting it down as work for the other project so side stepping the cost cap.
 
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Drago

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Bear in mind that RB successfully argued with the FIA that the 1.5 million tax rebate should be excluded as it was not specifically in the rules - the be fair it wasn't and the rules have been rewritten to include that sort of thing now - which left around £350,000, identified allegedly as the cost of their factory catering arrangements (RB tried to argue the free meals were provided by another RB owned company that had nothing to do with their F1 activities so the cost should be excluded, but the FIA didagreed.)

Do you think the price of a semi in the home counties, a third the cost of a single chassis, a quarter the cost of a simgle ICE engine, less than the cost of 2 days wind tunnel testing, put them so far ahead this season? I don't. If it were the case then Perez would surely be a hundred points further forward, but he isn't.

It'll be interesting to see if RB get bent over again this time around, but even more interesting if the aforementioned teams are on the list. They've all be calling for severe sporting penalties but you can bet Accy's best cravat that they'll all change their tune and start trotting out the excuses if one of them is on the list.

I'm speculating AM might be on the list, and possibly Ferrari, I'm probably wrong - I don't follow any one team closely, preferring the spectacle as a whole - but we shall see.
 
FishFright

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Drago said:
Bear in mind that RB successfully argued with the FIA that the 1.5 million tax rebate should be excluded as it was not specifically in the rules - the be fair it wasn't and the rules have been rewritten to include that sort of thing now - which left around £350,000, identified allegedly as the cost of their factory catering arrangements (RB tried to argue the free meals were provided by another RB owned company that had nothing to do with their F1 activities so the cost should be excluded, but the FIA didagreed.)

Do you think the price of a semi in the home counties, a third the cost of a single chassis, a quarter the cost of a simgle ICE engine, less than the cost of 2 days wind tunnel testing, put them so far ahead this season? I don't. If it were the case then Perez would surely be a hundred points further forward, but he isn't.

It'll be interesting to see if RB get bent over again this time around, but even more interesting if the aforementioned teams are on the list. They've all be calling for severe sporting penalties but you can bet Accy's best cravat that they'll all change their tune and start trotting out the excuses if one of them is on the list.

I'm speculating AM might be on the list, and possibly Ferrari, I'm probably wrong - I don't follow any one team closely, preferring the spectacle as a whole - but we shall see.
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Toto has been quiet about these rumours so probably not RB. I expect Merc and Mclaren to sail very close to the limit with them both needing a B spec car.
 
Drago

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And the FIA are saying don't be silly, no one has been confirmed as either compliant or in breach yet.

Which should put the whole thing to bed for now, except that's exactly what they said last year and 3 weeks later Red Bull Spice got caned by the headmaster in front or the whole school.
 
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Jody

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Do we reckon Sergio will see the season out or is another swap on the way?
 
Drago

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It's FP1 - some good drivers on that list. They know they they have FP2 and FP3 to get comfy and set up, won't want to risk a chassis unnecessarily. Interesting to see Ricciardo playing the long game there too.

Having said that, Perez managed to bend his car before the rain came.
 
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