Drago's murder deathkill slaughter massacre panic petrol buying watch!!!

[Alex321]

If I drive my van to an empty forecourt and buy a tank of diesel, I think I'm filling up. If I do the same at a busy garage and wait in line with another thirty cars, I'm "panic buying". What's the difference?

If your van is near empty on fuel, there is no difference.

But if you are filling up when nowhere near empty, because you are worried about there being enough stock for you to do so later, then you are panic buying. It is people filling up for that reason which causes those queues.

 

[Illaveago]

Hasn't this fuel crisis come at the right time ?
High street shops have almost all gone making people either shop online or drive to out of town shopping malls causing people to use more fuel . Even most of the big supermarkets are located on the outskirts of towns. In the old days people would go into town to do their day's shopping ,not drive miles because one shop sold one item cheaper than another and therefore have to drive from one to another.

 

[Illaveago]

If your van is near empty on fuel, there is no difference.

But if you are filling up when nowhere near empty, because you are worried about there being enough stock for you to do so later, then you are panic buying. It is people filling up for that reason which causes those queues.

I think if people saw that the government were actually doing something then people may feel a bit less panicky.
We are not using our cars at the moment as we have to take our daughter to a hospital in Bath on Monday so we are conserving fuel.
I will cycle along to see if our local filling station has been topped up later .

 

[Alex321]

Hasn't this fuel crisis come at the right time ?

In what way? None of anything else you say has any real bearing on that statement.

High street shops have almost all gone making people either shop online or drive to out of town shopping malls causing people to use more fuel .

For people not living in big towns, it often uses less fuel to drive to "retail parks" on the edge of town, than to drive to the centre of town, when you also have to find somewhere to park.

I haven't lived within reasonable walking distance of more than one shop for 40 years.

Even most of the big supermarkets are located on the outskirts of towns. In the old days people would go into town to do their day's shopping ,not drive miles because one shop sold one item cheaper than another and therefore have to drive from one to another.

I don't know of anybody who would drive miles between shops because of one or two price differences in their regular shopping. They might for big ticket items.

But I still don't see what all this (which has been the case for well over 20 years - from before the last big fuel crisis) has to do with the timing of the fuel crisis.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

They've cut back on the turd turf cutting, wood isn't as good as coal, and have you seen the price of decent coal these days?

Autocorrect to blame.

£22 / bag is what we pay for coal* and £105 for a dumpy bag of seasoned logs.

*Clean briquettes now that proper coal is verboten.

 

[Alex321]

I think if people saw that the government were actually doing something then people may feel a bit less panicky.

I agree, but what are the government supposed to do about a situation almost entirely manufactured by the media?

 

[Illaveago]

I agree, but what are the government supposed to do about a situation almost entirely manufactured by the media?

They keep talking about the army May be brought in to deliver fuel. It is the inaction which isn't helping .
It may blow over once filling stations get refuelled, but the longer it goes on the more people are going to become more concerned !

 

[Joffey]

Why hasn't the government taken the opportunity to tell people to work from home ?

The Government are in hiding as it's reported they have realised as nobody trusts them every time they comment on an issue they make it worse.

Boris Johnson started this all off telling us not to panic. If Boris tells you it's sunny you grab your brolly on the way out of the door.

 

[Joffey]

I agree, but what are the government supposed to do about a situation almost entirely manufactured by the media?

They could have resolved this a couple of years ago, that's the problem.

But as I have just posted - Johnson was the one to come out and tell everyone not to panic... and everyone panicked.

It's lazy to blame the media.

 

[mjr]

For people not living in big towns, it often uses less fuel to drive to "retail parks" on the edge of town, than to drive to the centre of town, when you also have to find somewhere to park.

First, more people live near town centres so fewer have to travel there at all. They're already there.

Secondly, buses and trains usually run to town centres, making it more possible for people further away not to drive there.

And finally, stop-start engines and electric cars don't burn fuel when stopped on the way into towns. If the town has a good circulation plan that guides visitors into car parks slickly, then it won't burn much more fuel compared to driving fast around a ring road and then stop-start around a massive parking lot.

I haven't lived within reasonable walking distance of more than one shop for 40 years.

Broken britain. Broken by bad town planning. "Liveable neighbourhoods" can't come soon enough.

 

[mjr]

I agree, but what are the government supposed to do about a situation almost entirely manufactured by the media?

If the hauliers hadn't started pressuring government, the media wouldn't have had anything to report.

 

[welsh dragon]

This story says all you need to know about the British at the moment .

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...el-shortage-BP-shell-Tesco-Esso-latest-update

 

[fossyant]

I got £30 of BP E10 last night to see if it's any better for my car - it's empty and has been on cheap E10, with fuel additives ! Need to get more by weekend as we've some miles to cover fully loaded. That said, I'm cycling to work this week. The Asda fuel station near work is rammed and drivers causing major traffic delays - it's stupidly right on a major junction. I very nearly rode up there on my bike this morning for a photo, but it was raining.

 

[Beebo]

I’m down to 38 miles on the clock.
Still can’t bring myself to sit in a queue for an hour just to fill up.

 

[classic33]

I got £30 of BP E10 last night to see if it's any better for my car - it's empty and has been on cheap E10, with fuel additives ! Need to get more by weekend as we've some miles to cover fully loaded. That said, I'm cycling to work this week. The Asda fuel station near work is rammed and drivers causing major traffic delays - it's stupidly right on a major junction. I very nearly rode up there on my bike this morning for a photo, but it was raining.

A bit of rain stopped you cycling!