Disgusting.

[Racing roadkill]

@Racing roadkill I think you are misinterpreting her statement.
She said that she had been out on that road earlier and had not seen any event signs.
She had not seen any cyclists earlier.
She said that she would not have used that road if she had known there was going to be an event.
No horse rider would deliberately endanger their horse, themselves or other road users.

Fair enough, I certainly wouldn’t get that close to a horse on my bike, getting a hoofing from something that size is guaranteed to hurt.

 

[Profpointy]

Anway, it's pretty f'n outrageous that other (vulnerable) road users should be expected to stay off the road if someone sticks some signs up.

How about I stick some signs saying I'm doing some speed runs on my motorbike so cyclists should stay out of my way?

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[Moderators]

The thread has undergone a major clean up of off topic posts and unsubstantiated claims directed against the horse rider.

We do not want to see any further accusations that cannot be backed up with evidence.

Back on topic from here.

 

[Cuchilo]

Of course, but why didn’t the organizers submit the appropriate requests to police and local authority.

Not sure about tri events but for tt's traffic counts and event dates are submitted to the local authority / police ( i could be wrong on exact details but every one knows its happening and the race is approved ) there are marshals at every contact point with traffic and signs are put out before and removed after the event . It also happens before most people wake up and eat their cornflakes .

 

[gavroche]

Judging from the clip, the cyclists were behaving like idiots. Never trust a horse or any animal for that matter as you don't know how they will react in situations like that. Passing it, at speed, on either side is very irresponsible to say the least.
Like I said, bunch of idiot cyclists.

 

[jefmcg]

A further statement from the organisers....

Press statement regarding incident with horse rider and cyclists at the Royal Windsor Triathlon

19th June 2018

We are aware of the incident that occurred during the 28th Royal Windsor Triathlon on the morning of Sunday 17 June. We are in direct contact with the horse rider who was involved, and we have offered our sincere apologies for the danger and upset that this incident caused.

Our events are permitted by British Triathlon and therefore adhere to all industry guidance regarding event delivery. Competitors are further required to abide by the British Triathlon Competition Rules, applied by the Technical Officials in attendance.

Alongside British Triathlon and its Officials, we are currently reviewing the evidence, and those found at fault of dangerous cycling or in breach of the rules will be disqualified from this event and banned from participating in any future Human Race events.

Various measures were put in place to mitigate the chance of an incident of this nature, including the erection of advance warning signs about the event, the plans for which were drawn up by a professional traffic management company, this signage was put up along the route on Thursday 7 June. Additional cycle event signage was also installed a day in advance of the event to bolster awareness for all road users. We are reviewing all signage & communication plans as part of our internal review exercise following this incident.

In addition, all participants in the event are informed in pre-event communications and event-day briefings to follow the Highway Code, and we do not condone dangerous cycling of any kind.

We are assisting the local police with their enquiries, and we will be looking at ways that we can improve through this experience, including engaging more with horse riding communities in the local area.

Human Race operate in this industry because of the positive impact it brings to individuals, charities and local communities. We work hard to deliver high quality and safe events, and it is saddening when the actions of a few individuals undermine an experience that is so positive for so many.

We take our responsibility as an event organiser very seriously, and as such will be working with all relevant stakeholders to implement learnings from this experience.

A spokesperson from British Triathlon said; “We are supporting Human Race events with the investigation of this incident and will look to take any action deemed necessary once we have all of the relevant information.”

KEY QUESTIONS
1. Why can you organise a Triathlon on open roads?

We follow best practice as per guidelines from British Triathlon. Throughout the planning process we liaise with the local council’s highways department and with the relevant Safety Advisory Groups about the event and its routes. The bike course takes place on open roads so individual participants are required to always ride within the rules of the Highway Code, and act with due care and to ensure their own safety as well as that of all others also using the road.

2. Were there warning signs about the event taking place for road users?

There were signs up at all major junctions from 7 June, following consultation with a professional traffic management company. In addition, further cycle event warning signage was put in place at key locations across the course the day before the event. We understand in this case that the individual affected was not aware of the event taking part despite this. Human Race has initiated a review of the signage to see if this can be improved in the future. We are also assessing our communication plan and working on ways to communicate better with the local community including local stables and other horse owners where possible.

3. Was the incident something to do with the last-minute route change?

No, there was a late change required to the Olympic length course due to road works, however the route change meant that the participants used a road that was already signposted from 7 June for our sprint distance event.

4. Are the riders being prosecuted/reported to the police?

Human Race Events are currently reviewing the video footage to identify the individuals involved. Once it has been established who was at fault, we will be able to take further action. If any competitor is found guilty of causing this incident they will be disqualified and banned from all future events. We will also pass this information on to British Triathlon. Human Race Events will assist the police, by supplying them any information they require for their own investigation.

5. What will you be doing to educate cyclists about horse riders?

We currently inform all our participants before the race that they need to adhere to the Highway code in our event communication. We repeat this on event day in our briefings to each wave. In addition to this, moving forward at our briefings we will specifically highlight the need for riders to be aware of horses and the need to pass with due care. In the future we will be working with the individual affected to look at ways to work more closely with the local riding community, so they are aware of any events we hold.

 

[fossyant]

[QUOTE 5283257, member: 43827"]Just ask them about the numbers of horses and riders killed and injured each year following incidents with cars/lorries. Ask horse riders who they get most trouble from.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, but stuff like this incident fuels the fire.

 

[Smokin Joe]

[QUOTE 5283257, member: 43827"]Just ask them about the numbers of horses and riders killed and injured each year following incidents with cars/lorries. Ask horse riders who they get most trouble from.[/QUOTE]
Saying that you were bad but there are others who are worse does not in anyway excuse something like that. This is a time when the cycling community has to hold it's hands up and admit a few of our members were dangerously in the wrong, with no caveats.

 

[Trickedem]

I wondered where some of the ridiculous comments about this incident were coming from. Then I discovered this forum. Hard to believe the attitude of many of these triathletes.

I was taught how to pass horses by a CTC old hand. He explained that horses recognise human voices, so the first thing you should do is speak to the rider and the horse, rather than using a bell or just overtaking. Has worked very well for me and I always

 

[stephec]

I wondered where some of the ridiculous comments about this incident were coming from. Then I discovered this forum. Hard to believe the attitude of many of these triathletes.

I was taught how to pass horses by a CTC old hand. He explained that horses recognise human voices, so the first thing you should do is speak to the rider and the horse, rather than using a bell or just overtaking. Has worked very well for me and I always

There's some proper bellends on that forum, posts 27 and 79 are good though.

 

[Blue Hills]

They're just complete penises. I'm sure they'd be complete penises whichever mode of transport they use. If they were riding horses they'd probably close pass a small child on a scooter.
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Agree totally. there are some cyclists who can't wait to get a high powered car, the better to demonstrate their twattishness.

Undertaking anything/anyone is appalling roadcraft - I was once actually going down a hill when some t** cycling up the otherway undertook me. No one off here I hope.

Agree of course that that was appalling cycling beyond belief. And agree with comment upthread about the horsey set almost always being truly excellent on the road, even though I very possibly have sod all in common with them. Those two undertakers should think themselves lucky they weren't kicked over a hedge by the horse.

Let's hope they are identified.

 

[Brandane]

I wondered where some of the ridiculous comments about this incident were coming from. Then I discovered this forum. Hard to believe the attitude of many of these triathletes.

Some of the posts on there unintentionally put up a good case for the banning of cycle races on open public roads; especially the nobber posting as "rruff" - "but then it is a frickin race isn't it" (post 29). WTF?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/?post=6659135#p6659135 From this post, doesn't "Or maybe they were coming off a hill around a corner in bright sunlight, got surprised, and did their best to avoid a collision. " sound awfully familiar like I've read it before from somebody on this forum.

 

[smutchin]

This is a time when the cycling community has to hold it's hands up and admit a few of our members were dangerously in the wrong, with no caveats.

No, I’m not ‘holding my hands up’ for something I haven’t done. These idiots don’t represent all cyclists, we are not a homogenous community.

If some motorists want to blame all cyclists for the actions of a few, then they can take their share of the blame for the far worse behaviour of other motorists.

 

[MikeG]

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/?post=6659135#p6659135 From this post, doesn't "Or maybe they were coming off a hill around a corner in bright sunlight, got surprised, and did their best to avoid a collision. " sound awfully familiar like I've read it before from somebody on this forum.

Yeah, that was me. If you re-read you'll find I was clutching around for some sort of explanation for their idiotic behaviour. It could be that the poster on the other forum was trying to find a way of understanding it too. Despite your insinuation, I am not that other poster.