raleighnut
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It wasn't a TT it was a Triathlon, that bunch could never happen in a Time-Trial
Disgusting.
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GilesM
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- East Lothian
Not that idiotic, when I was racing (a good while ago) that type of riding would have ended up with a serious bollocking from the Commissaire, and definite instant disqualification, and lucky if you kept your race licence, additionally the horse rider would have been warned by the lead car, and other marshals.
GilesM
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- East Lothian
[QUOTE 5281765, member: 9609"]
This is why I feel this sort of racing on a live road is not acceptable, no probs with time trialling (where they start at differant times?) but racing in a pack is going to cause conflict, as per the video.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing wrong with it if it's organised and marshaled properly, but the way this one was run seems a complete mess.
This is why I feel this sort of racing on a live road is not acceptable, no probs with time trialling (where they start at differant times?) but racing in a pack is going to cause conflict, as per the video.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing wrong with it if it's organised and marshaled properly, but the way this one was run seems a complete mess.
- Location
- Manchester
This is the statement from the horse rider :
Further statement:
No event warning on road
I would not have been out on the road in any form had I known there was a sporting event on. I saw no signs alerting the local that an event would take place on the road I was on and when, hence why I went out like any normal early Sunday morning this time of year.
Hit and run cyclist
Nobody stopped and the cyclist that hit me seemed to show no remorse by what looks like him lifting his middle finger at me whilst riding off as I screamed. I'm very thankful to the event officials for their prompt investigation into identifying the individual and the sincerity in which they are taking the incident. As mentioned, police are also investigating and both aim to work together.
Lack of road awareness
Although one cyclist hit me, I am surprised there wasn't more. Many individuals on this stretch of road at this time had passed dangerously and irresponsibly - too fast and too close. They also put other road users at risk by putting themselves between my horse and oncoming vehicles.
Ongoing concern
It was terrifying being on a spooked horse and knowing that these individuals weren't willing to stop. I am lucky to ride such a calm animal but there are other horses that really wouldn't have tolerated the speed and proximity of those cyclists, risking everyone. I am genuinely concerned. There are many amazing road users that pass safely (and who should always be thanked by horse riders) but there does seem to be a growing lack of awareness of how to pass horses safely on the road and indeed with other vulnerable road users such as cyclists. I think that is what is more shocking in this instance as I felt victimised by many of the individuals on bicycles on that road at that time and particularly by the one individual that hit my horse and I.
Damaging incident
My horse was on the defence with every cyclist he met from then on after the hit and didn't calm until we got away from cyclists on that road. I strongly hope there are no long term effects associated with cyclists coming up behind him from now on. I have had amazing support from the cyclist and triathlete community - so much so that some have offered to do some desensitisation work with my horse if he has picked up a new fear of cyclists. I want to pass my deepest and sincerest gratitude and respects to everyone involved in this sporting community for their support and consideration. I realise it is a few select individuals and not in any way a reflection of the majority of cyclists out on our roads.
Mutual ground
I am in full support of our want to all get home safely and enjoy our sports peacefully. I hope this doesn't divide us but makes us stronger in raising awareness of what seems like an ongoing and escalating issue regarding the lack of safety awareness from some individuals when passing vulnerable road users. Pass slow and wide should apply to both of us from everyone and anyone out on the road - as is stated in the highway code.
Edit: Under investigation with police and the Human Race officials. Grateful to everyone for their support and kind words. Horse and I are OK.
No warning to local residents, signs, etc... Went out at 7:30am to our other farm down the road and came back on same road 9am. I have lived here all my life and never had a problem with cyclists - as with my horse, who is bombproof on the road. I am wearing a yellow hi-vis hat silk, coat, gloves and gilet. My horse is wearing a yellow hi-vis rug and breastplate. The cyclist smashes along the side of my horse, taking my stirrup in the handlebars and bruising up my ankle. My horse rears and bolts forward, taking off one of his back shoes.
Not a lot I can do I think but what should I do? I had no knowledge of the event and repeatedly had near misses where cyclists failed to slow down and put themselves, me, my horse and drivers at risk. No one stopped to see if I or the horse was ok after this hit. I'm still in shock and feeling very sore along one side of my ankle.
Further statement:
No event warning on road
I would not have been out on the road in any form had I known there was a sporting event on. I saw no signs alerting the local that an event would take place on the road I was on and when, hence why I went out like any normal early Sunday morning this time of year.
Hit and run cyclist
Nobody stopped and the cyclist that hit me seemed to show no remorse by what looks like him lifting his middle finger at me whilst riding off as I screamed. I'm very thankful to the event officials for their prompt investigation into identifying the individual and the sincerity in which they are taking the incident. As mentioned, police are also investigating and both aim to work together.
Lack of road awareness
Although one cyclist hit me, I am surprised there wasn't more. Many individuals on this stretch of road at this time had passed dangerously and irresponsibly - too fast and too close. They also put other road users at risk by putting themselves between my horse and oncoming vehicles.
Ongoing concern
It was terrifying being on a spooked horse and knowing that these individuals weren't willing to stop. I am lucky to ride such a calm animal but there are other horses that really wouldn't have tolerated the speed and proximity of those cyclists, risking everyone. I am genuinely concerned. There are many amazing road users that pass safely (and who should always be thanked by horse riders) but there does seem to be a growing lack of awareness of how to pass horses safely on the road and indeed with other vulnerable road users such as cyclists. I think that is what is more shocking in this instance as I felt victimised by many of the individuals on bicycles on that road at that time and particularly by the one individual that hit my horse and I.
Damaging incident
My horse was on the defence with every cyclist he met from then on after the hit and didn't calm until we got away from cyclists on that road. I strongly hope there are no long term effects associated with cyclists coming up behind him from now on. I have had amazing support from the cyclist and triathlete community - so much so that some have offered to do some desensitisation work with my horse if he has picked up a new fear of cyclists. I want to pass my deepest and sincerest gratitude and respects to everyone involved in this sporting community for their support and consideration. I realise it is a few select individuals and not in any way a reflection of the majority of cyclists out on our roads.
Mutual ground
I am in full support of our want to all get home safely and enjoy our sports peacefully. I hope this doesn't divide us but makes us stronger in raising awareness of what seems like an ongoing and escalating issue regarding the lack of safety awareness from some individuals when passing vulnerable road users. Pass slow and wide should apply to both of us from everyone and anyone out on the road - as is stated in the highway code.
Edit: Under investigation with police and the Human Race officials. Grateful to everyone for their support and kind words. Horse and I are OK.
No warning to local residents, signs, etc... Went out at 7:30am to our other farm down the road and came back on same road 9am. I have lived here all my life and never had a problem with cyclists - as with my horse, who is bombproof on the road. I am wearing a yellow hi-vis hat silk, coat, gloves and gilet. My horse is wearing a yellow hi-vis rug and breastplate. The cyclist smashes along the side of my horse, taking my stirrup in the handlebars and bruising up my ankle. My horse rears and bolts forward, taking off one of his back shoes.
Not a lot I can do I think but what should I do? I had no knowledge of the event and repeatedly had near misses where cyclists failed to slow down and put themselves, me, my horse and drivers at risk. No one stopped to see if I or the horse was ok after this hit. I'm still in shock and feeling very sore along one side of my ankle.
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- Manchester
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smutchin
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- The Red Enclave
The more I hear about the circumstances behind this incident, the more I think the organisers need a serious slap, as well as the idiots taking part in the event.
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- Manchester
Mod note.
I apologise for posting the horse rider's statement after it has been posted further back in the thread but after getting some reports and looking at some of the recent posts it did not appear that way.
I apologise for posting the horse rider's statement after it has been posted further back in the thread but after getting some reports and looking at some of the recent posts it did not appear that way.
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raleighnut
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The riders statement's seems to get longer with each 'quoting', I await the posting that says the idiot bike riders have been identified and are facing charges.
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- Manchester
I should have said the horse rider's statement. I'll edit it
marzjennings
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For me, while the actions of the riders in the video are disgusting, I think the actions by the organizers are approaching negligent. For an event this size why weren’t the roads closed for the cycling portion of the triathlon? I believe the running sections were closed to non-competitors. Given that triathlons are often a haven for cycling newbs why was the safety information in their handout so limited? Barely a sentence regarding riding on open public roads, with no indication of repercussions if riders ride irresponsibly. Was there no ride lead car or other motorized escort? Was there any signage to inform the horse rider that a race was being held?
smutchin
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- The Red Enclave
My selective quote was intended to address the comments made by some people in the thread about how this incident will fuel anti-cyclist sentiment. It seems the horse rider herself doesn't take such a jaundiced view and some of the responses she has received even show cyclists in a hearteningly positive light.
Then @dave r posted the whole statement, which is fair enough because it adds some more context, and @Katherine posted it again including the additional bit added to the statement later. All good. Nothing for anyone to apologise for.
No doubt the rider will make further statements in due course.
raleighnut
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Likewise I've edited my post slightly to read "Idiot Bike Riders", I'm not a 'facebook' or twitter subscriber so can't read what the poor girl on the horse has posted directly.
One thing I will say is that it's a good job she had a camera else no one would believe what happened.
raleighnut
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[QUOTE 5281879, member: 43827"]Some in this thread apparently don't.[/QUOTE]
Or even worse attempt to justify it.
Or even worse attempt to justify it.
