kingrollo
Guru
I really think this lockdown easing will end badly - and will pretty swiftly require a re think.
Apart from " if not now when" there seems nothing but blind faith and denial.
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I really think this lockdown easing will end badly - and will pretty swiftly require a re think.
Apart from " if not now when" there seems nothing but blind faith and denial.
kingrollo
Guru
It wasn't I the first time !
No I don't - happy to withdraw the statement if correct.
winjim
Smash the cistern
Friend of ours, mid to late 40s. Caught Covid last summer. Still too ill to even play with his kids. Can't go to work. Effectively incapacitated.
lane
Veteran
Sorry someone else posted the same as you then. I am not saying it is incorrect I would just like to know if it is something I should rely on. I can see a lot on the web about the fit test etc. being important to get best protection but I am just unsure if it is then only as good as a cloth mask if not fitted 100% as I can't find anything to back that up - although I am not saying it's wrong I would have been interested in some research link to back it up is all.
DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
@winjim & @kingrollo - with hospital admissions still low SWMBO's back on her rehab wards which have Covid recovery patients.
They're full, with a waiting list. She's some patients in there who are 18-30 who've had strokes, have neurology problems, can't speak/swallow/walk/etc. as a result of Covid and will be there for some time as the staff try and help them recover.
They're full, with a waiting list. She's some patients in there who are 18-30 who've had strokes, have neurology problems, can't speak/swallow/walk/etc. as a result of Covid and will be there for some time as the staff try and help them recover.
midlife
Guru
There was a lot of work done on fit testing versus fit checking using bitter / sweet and Portacount.
About 20% of FFP3 masks leaked unless properly selected and fit tested for an individual. Tricky to carry out trials as a bit unethical to stick someone on a covid ward with an ill fitting mask. Anecdotally covid ward staff that were not fit tested had the same covid antibody rate as others but why take the risk when fit checking is straightforward. Upshot is that if you fit check for an FFP3 it's better than a surgical mask most likely
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Great except for just two problems: can't eat with a mask on; and it's about more than masks, such as space and ventilation.
classic33
Leg End Member
I've two items on repeat prescription that can't be collected by anyone else, nor can they be delivered.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Just to be clear 'hospitalisations' = daily hospital admissions (after the chit-chat upthread) and those figures (in quote) are the percentage hospital admissions daily versus daily cases by reported date 10 days earlier.
I offer slightly 'better' figures by using 7-day averages (to avoid weekend effects that JC's figures generate) as 2.7% (as at 18 Jun (cases) and 27 Jun(admissions)).
So 100,000 cases (if we ever see that) might be expected to result, 9 days later, in ~2700 hospital admissions.
classic33
Leg End Member
You mean something like a positive pressure mask with battery powered, filtered air supply?
Eight hour battery life, replaceable filters.
I did get some odd looks last year, not so many this year.
Edited to add,
I also seemed to have people giving me more room last year, whilst wearing it. Not so much this year.
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Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Imperial modelling
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993427/S1289_Imperial_Roadmap_Step_4.pdf 1
Waiting for more from SPI-M next week but 3 weeks ago:
”…delaying step 4 until [19] July is predicted to delay and substantially reduce the magnitude of the third wave. Delaying step 4 until all adults have received two vaccine doses is projected to delay the third wave. In some of our modelled scenarios, this long delay paradoxically leads to more total deaths since the third wave would be pushed into the winter, when transmission may be higher because of seasonality and increased indoors interactions, and when an increased proportion of individuals may have lost protection from prior infection.“
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993427/S1289_Imperial_Roadmap_Step_4.pdf 1
Waiting for more from SPI-M next week but 3 weeks ago:
”…delaying step 4 until [19] July is predicted to delay and substantially reduce the magnitude of the third wave. Delaying step 4 until all adults have received two vaccine doses is projected to delay the third wave. In some of our modelled scenarios, this long delay paradoxically leads to more total deaths since the third wave would be pushed into the winter, when transmission may be higher because of seasonality and increased indoors interactions, and when an increased proportion of individuals may have lost protection from prior infection.“
So basically the answer is to stay in lockdown till.... 2024?
Regardless of that, many people I know ignored lockdown rules towards the end... people have just had enough. Even Whitty has mentioned lockdown fatigue before.
Deleted User
Guest
- Location
- Wolverhampton
Deleted User
Guest
- Location
- Wolverhampton
I'm sure the chances of catching Covid from a non mask wearer whilst picking up a prescription from the chemist is pretty low surely?
classic33
Leg End Member
I'd to nominate a chemists a few years ago, for the prescriptions to be sent to. My nominated chemist just happens to be Lloyd's, in Sainsbury's. Ideal chance to combine two needs into one trip.
I'm not able to give a figure for the chance of picking something up from someone not wearing a mask. Especially as I use a full face, closed system mask.
