Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[C R]

That is interesting. We as a college are now mandating them for everyone in every setting with no exceptions. If you can't wear a mask you are not getting in.

At our daughters high school they are mandating masks in the corridors, to be removed in the classroom, but as they change classroom five times a day that means five times putting a mask on and five times taking it off every school day. I can't this that is any less risky than not wearing one.

 

[MntnMan62]

Interesting to see how this plays out. Some schools currently banning masks for teachers and students, some allowing and some requiring them. Possibly not the clearest message.

That just shows you how divided people are about how to approach this entire virus. There are those who understand what is at stake, value human life and are willing to do their small part to try and bring this thing under control. Then there are those who only think about themselves, deny the science and don't care that people are dying. It's really just as simple as that.

 

[marinyork]

That just shows you how divided people are about how to approach this entire virus. There are those who understand what is at stake, value human life and are willing to do their small part to try and bring this thing under control. Then there are those who only think about themselves, deny the science and don't care that people are dying. It's really just as simple as that.

If only it was that simple.

 

[Slick]

At our daughters high school they are mandating masks in the corridors, to be removed in the classroom, but as they change classroom five times a day that means five times putting a mask on and five times taking it off every school day. I can't this that is any less risky than not wearing one.

I think it sounds more risky.

Why is the classroom mask free? I would have thought that is where the danger is.

 

[C R]

I think it sounds more risky.

Why is the classroom mask free? I would have thought that is where the danger is.

The whole thing is really messy. I would have thought that keeping the group in one classroom and have the teachers come to them would be simpler and reduce the number of contacts. What the school seem to be doing is trying at all costs to not make any changes to their routine and coming up with highly complex procedures to give the impression that they are doing something.

 

[MntnMan62]

If only it was that simple.

It actually is that simple. Unfortunately those who fall into the second category also try and make it seem more complicated so they can try and rationalize the simple fact that they are selfish, deny the science, don't care about people dying and value money more than human life. It is without a doubt as simple as that.

 

[Slick]

The whole thing is really messy. I would have thought that keeping the group in one classroom and have the teachers come to them would be simpler and reduce the number of contacts. What the school seem to be doing is trying at all costs to not make any changes to their routine and coming up with highly complex procedures to give the impression that they are doing something.

Sounds about right. Another thing we are putting in place is class bubbles, so groups must stay together but isolate from other groups. Lunch will be delivered to classrooms and the games room has been closed. They really wanted to shut the staffroom but I managed to keep that open as long as the distancing is maintained and monitored.

 

[C R]

Sounds about right. Another thing we are putting in place is class bubbles, so groups must stay together but isolate from other groups. Lunch will be delivered to classrooms and the games room has been closed. They really wanted to shut the staffroom but I managed to keep that open as long as the distancing is maintained and monitored.

That sounds much more sensible.

 

[lane]

That is interesting. We as a college are now mandating them for everyone in every setting with no exceptions. If you can't wear a mask you are not getting in.

Yes my son is going to a 6th form college in September and certainly staff will be wearing visors and I think students have to as well (although not entirely clear on that). My wife works at a college and staff are allowed to wear a mask if they want to and students must wear them in the corridors but not classrooms. However Government advice is that they are not required in school and my daughter is going to a school where the wearing of masks is banned for both students and staff. Nonsensical and inconsistent.

 

[classic33]

Another letter, from another specialist, saying that due to the current conditions, any further treatment will have to be via my GP. That ends all hospital treatment for the foreseeable future.

I can't even get an appointment with the GP. Next hospital visit may well be an A&E department. Not by choice either.

I'm getting a bit cynical now and wondering if the current situation is being used to get rid of some on waiting lists, thereby making them shorter. A third annual review being the one cancelled today.

I can't be the only one in this situation. But what about the knock on effect of not being treated, it's simply left snowballing.

 

[lane]

The whole thing is really messy. I would have thought that keeping the group in one classroom and have the teachers come to them would be simpler and reduce the number of contacts. What the school seem to be doing is trying at all costs to not make any changes to their routine and coming up with highly complex procedures to give the impression that they are doing something.

I am assuming a secondary school. Problem is that students don't stay with each other all the time due to setting and taking different subjects so it's not really possible for them to stay in the same classroom. Also government guidance is that the bubble of students who do not mix with others consists of a year group which will be 200 or even 300 students depending on the size of the school.

 

[Slick]

Yes my son is going to a 6th form college in September and certainly staff will be wearing visors and I think students have to as well (although not entirely clear on that). My wife works at a college and staff are allowed to wear a mask if they want to and students must wear them in the corridors but not classrooms. However Government advice is that they are not required in school and my daughter is going to a school where the wearing of masks is banned for both students and staff. Nonsensical and inconsistent.

That was pretty much the chat for us as well until someone finally had a brainwave, and think I'm quite happy about it. I'm sure they will come to terms with exemptions as well, eventually.

 

[matticus]

That just shows you how divided people are about how to approach this entire virus. There are those who understand what is at stake, value human life and are willing to do their small part to try and bring this thing under control. Then there are those who only think about themselves, deny the science and don't care that people are dying. It's really just as simple as that.

People have a spectrum of approaches to risk, even where the science is crystal clear (e.g. how fast to drive on a motorway).
Don't think that because you do something differently to someone, you are in the good guys, and they are in the bad guys.


Safety is not binary, Risk Assessments are never black and white.

 

[classic33]

It actually is that simple. Unfortunately those who fall into the second category also try and make it seem more complicated so they can try and rationalize the simple fact that they are selfish, deny the science, don't care about people dying and value money more than human life. It is without a doubt as simple as that.

You're the only one mentioning money.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Another letter, from another specialist, saying that due to the current conditions, any further treatment will have to be via my GP. That ends all hospital treatment for the foreseeable future.

I can't even get an appointment with the GP. Next hospital visit may well be an A&E department. Not by choice either.

I'm getting a bit cynical now and wondering if the current situation is being used to get rid of some on waiting lists, thereby making them shorter. A third annual review being the one cancelled today.

I can't be the only one in this situation. But what about the knock on effect of not being treated, it's simply left snowballing.

My wife has just been told that her annual post-leukaemia review will take place by phone this year. No prior blood tests to be carried out.