As @Alex321 said. But you may have noticed an increase in ULEZ zones. It is also quite possible that as EV ownership increases, demand for petrol and diesel with decrease. When demand drops for an item it tends to get more expensive. No-one knows when it will happen, but it will happen.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Possibly, but as there is no way we will be ready for the 2030 switch to EV’s only, I wouldn‘t be surprised if it is pushed back to 2035.
Only new ICE vehicles will be stopped for sale. You could buy a ICE car on 31 Dec 2029.
Life of a car generally is around 10-15 yrs from new to crusher.
So 2045-50 will see the last regular ICE car. There will be a number of collector vehicles still running around. I would expect by then using them to be expensive in fuel and road pricing (ULEZ, payper mile charges)
Edit Oops realised I said I probably wouldn't post on here again
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From what I have seen it all seems to be a big con!
My daughter has a new Ford hybrid . I'm not sure what the road tax is but from talking to them about it it just seems like a way of getting round the rules .
The first day she had it I asked her about it . She said it was complicated and just drove it home . Later in the evening her partner took it out to charge it up. He drove about 26 miles and discovered that he had used the equivalent of over 60 miles worth of petrol to charge it up. The other day I asked how they were getting on . They said that they charged it from home for half a day and got 6 miles of battery power.
I haven't asked them what their mpg is but it just seems to be a way of getting round the rules .
My daughter has a new Ford hybrid . I'm not sure what the road tax is but from talking to them about it it just seems like a way of getting round the rules .
The first day she had it I asked her about it . She said it was complicated and just drove it home . Later in the evening her partner took it out to charge it up. He drove about 26 miles and discovered that he had used the equivalent of over 60 miles worth of petrol to charge it up. The other day I asked how they were getting on . They said that they charged it from home for half a day and got 6 miles of battery power.
I haven't asked them what their mpg is but it just seems to be a way of getting round the rules .
Alex321
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Why do you believe we might not be ready?
There is no switch to Ev's only in 2030, only a ban on sales of NEW ICE cars. And hybrids can still be sold until 2035 (though I suspect not many will).
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Electric_Andy
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For some maybe, but I can see a lot of people like me hanging onto their ICE cars for as long as they can. I've already spent 2 grand in the last 2 years on my diesel, which I paid 5 grand for. And is already 9 years old. Clutch, flywheel, ABS sensors, control arms, tyres. I could still probably get 4 grand for my car but then what....pay the same higher prices for another ICE car or having shopped around I can only see a Leaf that's 14 years old and has 100k miles on...in my price range (and local). Living in the arse end of nowhere, nearly every trip outside of Devon is a long jaunt and Diesel just makes more sense with a 700 mile range and getting 60+mpg. It sounds like false economy but I can afford a big parts bill every year or two, but not a new car purchase with cash.
Perhaps in/near London in might be different, but until a ULEZ comes into Devon I don't have much insentive to switch to electric.
cougie uk
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Is that your opinion or verified facts ?
cougie uk
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Presumably he went to a fast charger to charge up ? That's like going to the motorway services to get petrol. Always expensive.
I Believe the Ford Hybrids have an electric range of about 30 miles.
If they charged it for 4 hours and just got 6 miles range - I'm guessing the battery was almost full when they started.
EVs aren't a con. You just need to understand what you're doing.
My fuel bills are a fraction of what they would be for petrol. Probably a 1/4. It was 1/8 the price when electric was cheap.
Jameshow
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So-called "plug-in hybrids" have a small battery and can be used in full electric mode for short runs. The idea is you use it as a normal petrol for longer runs and just on battery for nipping to the shops or a few miles on your commute. 6 miles seems a bit low but as mentioned, maybe they just topped off the internal battery. Taking it out for a drive using all that petrol just to charge up the battery is nuts! You don't get something for nothing so of course they didn't get good mpg doing that.
I'd recommend they spend a bit more time reading the manual "complicated" or not.
cougie uk
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Whoooooosh !
Chislenko
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You might need to change your user name "Electric Andy" 😊
Pale Rider
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An over-simplification of the supply and demand equation.
At this time, there is nothing to reliably predict what will happen to petrol/diesel prices in 10 or 15 years.
Electric cars are more and more being seen as the Emperor's New Clothes, particularly on price, which is just one factor which will support demand for traditional fuel.
cougie uk
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Hottest June since records began mean anything to you ?
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