Are we being forced to go electric?

[Gunk]

Shanks's pony

So the rich rock up in their Tesla and poor have to walk!

 

[biggs682]

That's something we all should be using more of !

Couldn't agree more

 

[vickster]

That's something we all should be using more of !

And for those who can't?

 

[Gunk]

And for those who can't?

They need to buy a Tesla

 

[fossyant]

They need to buy a Tesla

And 'willy wave' about how ludicrously' fast it is, whilst zapping more neutrons than necessary.

 

[Alex321]

So the rich rock up in their Tesla and poor have to walk!

Which has always been the case really. Electric vehicles make little difference there.

 

[vickster]

Which has always been the case really. Electric vehicles make little difference there.

Many of those on low incomes have still be able to afford a vehicle however, not so with EVs most of which are £15k+ (or older, leggy and potentially in need of a new battery in the not so distant future)

 

[Alex321]

Many of those on low incomes have still be able to afford a vehicle however, not so with EVs most of which are £15k+ (or older, leggy and potentially in need of a new battery in the not so distant future)

Those on low incomes can't afford anything but cars which are older, leggy and potentially in need of various expensive repairs now.

By the time such cars are no longer viable, 2nd hand EVs will not be costing much more.

 

[Scottish Scrutineer]

I read the Americans are getting into solar hydrogen production, possibly because they have lots of sun and space in much of the country.

Lord Bamford reckons his plant in India is going to do well with the JCB hydrogen ICE engine.

India imports all its oil and gas, but also has lots of sun and space for solar hydrogen production.

I'm sure I read that JCB are looking to use nuclear power to produce hydrogen.

Another pathway to low carbon hydrogen is to pair small modular nuclear reactors with electrolysers. The development of this scale of nuclear reactor has been prioritised within the UK government’s Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution3 and the Midlands hosts relevant expertise in nuclear through Rolls-Royce and a branch of the Nuclear Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre, both located in Derby. Source:https://www.cenex.co.uk/app/uploads...e-Hydrogen-Technologies-Strategy-Dec-2021.pdf

 

[vickster]

Those on low incomes can't afford anything but cars which are older, leggy and potentially in need of various expensive repairs now.

By the time such cars are no longer viable, 2nd hand EVs will not be costing much more.

Except the Guardian article which sparked the conversation is talking about charging being brought in imminently not on 10 years time

 

[icowden]

Except the Guardian article which sparked the conversation is talking about charging being brought in imminently not on 10 years time

Yes, to encourage you to make the change. Frankly if you live in Lambeth you do not need a car at all. It's an area with fantastic public transport, being as it's in the middle of London. One of the advantages of living in a London borough is that you don't need a car.

 

[vickster]

Yes, to encourage you to make the change. Frankly if you live in Lambeth you do not need a car at all. It's an area with fantastic public transport, being as it's in the middle of London. One of the advantages of living in a London borough is that you don't need a car.

What about work vehicles?
People who can’t walk or use public transport?
Visitors?
You may not need a car but you aren’t everyone.
Isn’t the soon to be ULEZ already penalising enough? At least this, unlike that is actually having a thorough consultation

 

[Pale Rider]

Frankly if you live in Lambeth you do not need a car at all. It's an area with fantastic public transport, being as it's in the middle of London.

Lambeth is also home to the 'muggers' mile' between Stockwell and Brixton tube stations.

More people forced to use public transport or walk does mean enhanced street robbery opportunities, so at least someone benefits.

 

[fossyant]

Frankly if you live in London you do not need a car at all. It's an area with fantastic public transport.

Fixed it. Shame that in most of the rest of the country, public transport is a shambles.

 

[vickster]

Fixed it. Shame that in most of the rest of the country, public transport is a shambles.

He lives in a town with a station and ample buses, yet can’t live without a car as he sends his children to a private school that can only be accessed by car as he won’t pay for the ‘public transport‘ bus option. One rule for some it seems? hopefully once the children finish school, they can all go car free. The Uk needs less cars full stop, not just more massive SU- EVs