cougie uk
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Faster chargers are more expensive.
If it's at work are the cars going to sit there all day on them ? It'd be overkill to charge any faster.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Faster chargers are more expensive.
If it's at work are the cars going to sit there all day on them ? It'd be overkill to charge any faster.
Jameshow
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Possibly the substation cannot cope with the extra kw. 7kw must cost alot less than 22kw and colleagues are in the office for 8hrs so not needed???
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Definitely a very big elephant in the room.
The VED tax take is huge. OBR estimate for 23/24 is £8 billion.
Fanciful instalation of solar arrays at home etc will not circumvent a charge on EV's.
The Government of the day will simply apply an alternative tax to fill the shortfull.
Possibly mileage based but more likely with a larger tax take at purchase and much larger annual fees based on who knows what... upstream environmental damage? car ownership per se? power output? Whatever happens EV ownership (excluding initial cost) will not be as cheap as it is now.
Moving on...
The real game-change will be as the big manufacturers finally get there act together and drive unit costs down making them more accesible to many potential adopters.
If VW can pull off the mooted ID2 All in 2026 and the even smaller ID1 then we will see a big sea-change in take-up imo.
Here we would be sold on eg an ID2 in SUV guise tbh, assuming it had a realistic range. Compact, practical and we no longer need (never did really) a large, powerful car so it would be ideal for us and make perfect sense.
Grant Fondo
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Mmmm.... problem is aggro is starting between hybrid car staff and EV staff as even with 10 chargers its not enough.
I'm one of the lucky ones, an 80% charge does me for 2 weeks.
Grant Fondo
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I beg your puddin? Some folk like having fast cars, others don't. I'm in the former category. At least my new one is an EV and not a gas-guzzling 20mpg petrol one like i used to have.
cyberknight
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maybe the OP meant they personally never needed ?
Grant Fondo
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22kW chargers aren't really anymore expensive than single phase 7kW chargers. I think it was £50 difference when I bought my Zappi chargers.
I reckon there is 3 phase already there and they are splitting the chargers across separate phases.
With master/slave setup combination chargers you can set charge rates and let a car charge faster if other EVs are not present or charged up. I guess the company thought it more suitable to have more chargers and limit each connection to max 7kW
Grant Fondo
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EV P11D tax is bound to rocket at some point if i know HMRC.
cougie uk
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How far are these people commuting in ? I'd have thought a morning or afternoon charging at 7kW should replace what they used that morning to get to work ? So in effect you have 20 chargers. Otherwise they're just taking the pee and hoarding electric.
It would also help if the Government would take an interest. In the USA a Tesla Y (entry model) costs $46,000 or £35,870. In the UK it costs £49,000 or $62,800. That's a big difference.
classic33
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The charge would be from those actually providing the electric, not from your billing company. Although they'll probably add onto it as well.
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Set idle charging fee, through NFC.
7kW will charge most vehicles around 27-33 miles per hour.
If these are just commuting cars, one to two hours per car max charge time.
Then start charging the owner to get off the charger👍
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