Are we being forced to go electric?

[figbat]

If the charging cable comes out of the side of the car it does make getting past them awkward if parked close to another car, a bit like if the door was part open. But assuming people can place nicely and take care squeezing past other’s cars then normal spaces should suffice.

 

[vickster]

If the charging cable comes out of the side of the car it does make getting past them awkward if parked close to another car, a bit like if the door was part open. But assuming people can place nicely and take care squeezing past other’s cars then normal spaces should suffice.

Stick the charging spaces far away from the entrance/exit/shop(s) as applicable, away from other spaces, on the end of a row where cables won’t be such a nuisance?

 

[youngoldbloke]

Stick the charging spaces far away from the entrance/exit/shop(s) as applicable, away from other spaces, on the end of a row where cables won’t be such a nuisance?

You're going to need more and more as time goes by, much as you'll need one for every parking space in a street of terraced houses. I don't believe that neighbours will share a few chargers amicably when there are more EV's than chargers. Hopefully technology will provide answers.

 

[vickster]

You're going to need more and more as time goes by, much as you'll need one for every parking space in a street of terraced houses. I don't believe that neighbours will share a few chargers amicably when there are more EV's than chargers. Hopefully technology will provide answers.

That’s ok once there are only EVs… I guess the solution to make people share is penalty charging after a certain time period, however long it takes to charge.
Don’t think it’s been thought through at all well for people who don’t have OSP, I assume all of the EV owners on this forum do which is telling

 

[geocycle]

That’s ok once there are only EVs… I guess the solution to make people share is penalty charging after a certain time period, however long it takes to charge.
Don’t think it’s been thought through at all well for people who don’t have OSP, I assume all of the EV owners on this forum do which is telling

Most supermarkets have a limited period you can stay whether you are charging a car or not. Some council car parks were free while charging but now they are usually the same for all users. Many people would only need to charge a couple of times a week so while a home option would be useful it is not essential. My son is on a prepayment meter so has to use public charge points and finds it ok.

The lamp post and guttering option across a path works well if the supply is of sufficient capacity. The major limiting factor is getting regional electric companies and the grid to do the installs.

As might be expected the government has mismanaged the roll out of charge points and the quasi market doesn’t really allow intervention. The levelling up fund has given money to local authorities to match investments by charge point operators, but only the big outfits often backed by the oil companies can afford the capital. Roll out is happening, but in a faux market based haphazard way in line with conservative philosophy, rather than the more considered way of the Norwegians.

 

[All uphill]

That’s ok once there are only EVs… I guess the solution to make people share is penalty charging after a certain time period, however long it takes to charge.
Don’t think it’s been thought through at all well for people who don’t have OSP, I assume all of the EV owners on this forum do which is telling

I have off street parking, but no car.

Hmmm. Maybe there is an opportunity to enhance the cycling fund.

 

[vickster]

I have off street parking, but no car.

Hmmm. Maybe there is an opportunity to enhance the cycling fund.

Yep, why not if there are people around you who need to charge an EV

 

[vickster]

Most supermarkets have a limited period you can stay whether you are charging a car or not. Some council car parks were free while charging but now they are usually the same for all users. Many people would only need to charge a couple of times a week so while a home option would be useful it is not essential. My son is on a prepayment meter so has to use public charge points and finds it ok.

The lamp post and guttering option across a path works well if the supply is of sufficient capacity. The major limiting factor is getting regional electric companies and the grid to do the installs.

As might be expected the government has mismanaged the roll out of charge points and the quasi market doesn’t really allow intervention. The levelling up fund has given money to local authorities to match investments by charge point operators, but only the big outfits often backed by the oil companies can afford the capital. Roll out is happening, but in a faux market based haphazard way in line with conservative philosophy, rather than the more considered way of the Norwegians.

It might be ok for him now, I was more replying to a post about what will happen when there are more EVs on a street than places to charge/park.
Person not charging parks outside their house which happens to have a lamppost charge point outside.
There are 67m people in the U.K., 5m Norwegians, very mismatched population densities so not a great comparison imo. Not to mention the many billions Norway makes from gas and oil, it has a surfeit of cash to invest in such things. The U.K. doesn’t. They aren’t seen as high priority

 

[Dadam]

It might be ok for him now, I was more replying to a post about what will happen when there are more EVs on a street than places to charge/park.
Person not charging parks outside their house which happens to have a lamppost charge point outside.

In many urban areas/streets there are already more cars than parking spaces. Yes it is an issue, but not an EV issue per se. The last point will have to be worked out on a parking policy basis by the local authority but fundamentally will come down to a either tough titty person A, charge somewhere else. Or tough titty person B, you can’t park in front of your house. I know a lot of people seem to regard the latter as a basic right, but it isn’t.

 

[vickster]

In many urban areas/streets there are already more cars than parking spaces. Yes it is an issue, but not an EV issue per se. The last point will have to be worked out on a parking policy basis by the local authority but fundamentally will come down to a either tough titty person A, charge somewhere else. Or tough titty person B, you can’t park in front of your house. I know a lot of people seem to regard the latter as a basic right, but it isn’t.

Indeed, but it’s always better to get on with neighbours

 

[CXRAndy]

I have off street parking, but no car.

Hmmm. Maybe there is an opportunity to enhance the cycling fund.

If you are near a convenient location, if setup properly with excess idling fees too. You could make a tidy sum per day, all for the investment of a charger £1k-1.5k installed. Pay off the capital expenditure in no time. Profit all the way then.

If you could get 3 phase, then even higher charging price's

 

[All uphill]

If you are near a convenient location, if setup properly with excess idling fees too. You could make a tidy sum per day, all for the investment of a charger £1k-1.5k installed. Pay off the capital expenditure in no time. Profit all the way then.

If you could get 3 phase, then even higher charging price's

I'm near a big hospital

 

[CXRAndy]

I'm near a big hospital

https://www.rolecserv.com/ev-products/SECURICHARGE

 

[Jenkins]

You've not read the thread ?

(No, I'm not being totally serious)

Why bother? I picked the first 5 pages, 5 pages in the middle and 5 pages towards the end. They all repeated the same arguments, so I guess the other 278 pages were the same thing.



(Again, not being totally serious )

 

[cougie uk]

I'm near a big hospital

Or just get them to granny charge from one of your sockets. If they're working at the hospital they'll be there for 8 hours or so ? Zero expense for you.
My car never needs 8 hours charging.