Assuming no queues, time for refuelling with petrol diesel; around 10 - 15 minutes.
Time to recharge an EV, depending on your EV and the charger, maybe up to 2 hours.
That's the rub.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Time to recharge an EV, depending on your EV and the charger, maybe up to 2 hours.
That's the rub.
cougie uk
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Why would work places etc install fast chargers? You're there for 8 hours. No point in paying for fast charging.
As to caravan sites - trickle charge the cars overnight.
Supercharging is 15-30 mins to get you back upto 80-85%. The real benefit of charging is you plug it in, walk away, come back to a charged EV.
Each evening it literally takes me less than an extra 30 secs to plug in and lock up
No one spends 2 hours charging their EV at a fast charger.
figbat
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So that one charger can service more than one car? We have a few 300kW chargers at work (as well as a handful of 50kW and a load of 7kW). The fast chargers are useful for the odd Taycan and such to replenish, they are also useful for more lowly cars to charge quickly if they will be leaving soon, or they can charge several cars during the day so long as people move their cars when finished.
fossyant
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You'll struggle at a caravan site unless the supply is upgraded. 3-4kw demand will trip ours. Eg Kettle and an electric fire or microwave. I seriously thought of getting a Zoe when they were pretty cheap used, free charging at work, but couldn't have got to our van and back as there wasn't much charging points in North Wales. It's improved a bit. The chap with a new Kia EV6 on our site doesn't charge his at the van, but nor does he do much driving further into wales. Does the return home on one charge.
cougie uk
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Just put in electric sockets and let people stay all day on them. That's got to be cheaper than one fast charger. It'd be a PITA getting some people to move off a space.
Alex321
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I am 100% certain most people with caravans will be busing EVs to tow them within the next 10-15 years.
Why do you think otherwise?
figbat
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Overstay charges do help with motivation.
won’t be towing them far unless tech moves at pace , don’t see that right now .
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Alls well, just need to tow a wind mill and panels
Jokes aside interesting article , let’s see how it works out . May solve the range problem .
Jokes aside interesting article , let’s see how it works out . May solve the range problem .
cougie uk
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But I thought we were talking about workplaces? Nobody wants the admin hassle. It's got to be as easy as possible.
Alex321
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The reduction in range isn't that different from the reduction in range for ICE vehicles.
And the tech has been moving forward at pace. Range of current EVs is in the region of twice what it was 5-6 years ago, and improving all the time.
Ok my gas guzzling 4x4 gets say 34 mpg driving generally . Towing I’m down at the low 20s towing a big twin axle . So a third less but it’s fairly easy to top up at the service station, most maybe not all but most. Takes minutes and I’m on my way . Swap that for an EV and right now that is not impossible but it’s bloody hard ! That is where we are swap that out for an HGV and it’s the same problem .
We will need a bigger leap in range , call it range anxiety call it whatever you like but in all seriousness that is where we are . Maybe by the end of the decade and it’s 100% better , let’s hope so . You would have to be mad to buy an EV right now knowing you have to tow a caravan .
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And as I posted earlier, the woeful maximum towing ability, long range Tesla 1000kg, Discovery 4000kg, just not suitable
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