Are we being forced to go electric?

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JhnBssll

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MrsBssll and I are just back from a friends wedding in Portugal. We thought we'd mix it up a little and undertake a european roadtrip in our leccy car with minimal planning, and I must say it went rather well :okay:

We left home at 4am last Wednesday with a fully charged battery and headed for Folkestone then Calais via the Eurotunnel. Once in Calais we topped the battery up and headed south towards our first overnight stop in Poitiers. Day two had us heading further south, eventually crossing the Pyrenese in to Spain with some stunning scenery. We stopped off in Bilbao to eat and sleep. Day 3 was a slog - bits of central spain were fairly flat and monotonous but once in to Portugal it got super pretty again and eventually we ended up in Sintra. We stayed here a couple of nights for the wedding before heading home again, stopping off in Bilbao and Le Mans on the way.

In total we drove a little over 3,000 miles in 7 days, stopping to charge 19 times in the process :laugh: We used around £385 of electricity, using the Supercharger network for every stop. The car told us when to stop, where to stop and how long to stop for and it was spot on every time. From a cost perspective I guess this is similar to what it would have cost in a petrol car but frugality was not the aim of the game with this trip :laugh: All in all a great experience and, now we have the toll tags etc set up, one we will likely repeat in future.

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Buck

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Yorkshire
Sounds good John. If we had driven in our diesel car that would have been ~5-6 tank fulls so around £550 based on local prices.
 

Jameshow

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We have a EV ATV, it has a 48V battery to power its drive motor. Because its impractical to have long cables to do work around our place. I don't really like petrol tools, avoid where possible.

I decided to kit out the little ATV with a invertor to run my electric power tools and charge the battery handheld drills etc. So with some 100A flexi DC cable, fuses and big eyelets, I've knocked up a rig for me to be able to plug in and remove the invertor with 100A DC connector

I trialled the system last night, I can run up-to 2000W continuous and peak at 4kW. I don't have anything that powerful to run, the most power hungry is a hedge cutter at 1800W.

I used a heat gun to test current draw, measured with a DC clamp-drawing around 32Amps. So quite safe on the 60A rated fuses.

Off into the field we go ^_^

What inverter did you get?

PSW or a cheap one?
 

Milzy

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Seriously though what if we all go electric in good faith & then they ‘charge’ high for power & petrol prices drop low? Then we are stuck with the silent money guzzling lumps out of pocket.
 

vickster

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Seriously though what if we all go electric in good faith & then they ‘charge’ high for power & petrol prices drop low? Then we are stuck with the silent money guzzling lumps out of pocket.

Depends on your reasons for choosing EV. Greener or in an expectation you’ll save money, bit of both?
if only in the expectation of saving money, maybe wait if you currently have a perfectly usable ICE car which costs you less than payments on a new EV would? If you need a new car and are prepared to pay EV prices and see them as greener, then get one…although electricity prices are only going one way at present if having to pay yourself
 
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Seriously though what if we all go electric in good faith & then they ‘charge’ high for power & petrol prices drop low? Then we are stuck with the silent money guzzling lumps out of pocket.
Well my tariff works out at 1/10 the price of petrol per mile.
Even when it increases its going to be 1/7th.
No greenhouse gases.
No poisonous fumes.
No bother with petrol stations.

We can charge them using solar panels.
Good luck digging for your own petrol.
 

Gunk

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Oxford
Good luck digging for your own petrol.

what nonsense
 

midlife

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I presume you can tell us which part of what he said is in any way incorrect, if you think it "nonsense"?

Not incorrect, but way out of most people's budget to buy an EV and then buy the solar panels / kit required to run it.

The comment about digging for petrol was simply rubbing our noses in it.
 
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Well my tariff works out at 1/10 the price of petrol per mile.
Even when it increases its going to be 1/7th.
No greenhouse gases.
No poisonous fumes.
No bother with petrol stations.

We can charge them using solar panels.
Good luck digging for your own petrol.

No LOCAL greenhouse gasses
No LOCAL poisonous fumes
No quick refill of range

Do solar panels need the same rare earths that need 12 year old miners, or is that minors :whistle:
 
And yet there's loads of people Peeing away their money on big flash 4 x 4s or expensive German cars - rather than sensible stuff like this that will save you money. Go figure.
Not incorrect, but way out of most people's budget to buy an EV and then buy the solar panels / kit required to run it.

The comment about digging for petrol was simply rubbing our noses in it.
 
And yet there's loads of people Peeing away their money on big flash 4 x 4s or expensive German cars - rather than sensible stuff like this that will save you money. Go figure.
Not incorrect, but way out of most people's budget to buy an EV and then buy the solar panels / kit required to run it.

The comment about digging for petrol was simply rubbing our noses in it.
 
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