Are we being forced to go electric?
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Surely this is a desirable feature. Not polluting densely populated areas.
20-30 mins to rapid charge or overnight. It takes me longer to go and get fuel from local petrol station than it would to supercharge.
Btw. Not all electricity come from fossil fuels, Around 50% is from renewable energy, like solar, wind, hydro.
It’s called personal choice, people are free to spend their money on any car they like. If it’s not electric or a hybrid, so be it.
Jenkins
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And burning wood pellets shipped in from abroad
cougie uk
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Aren't they rubbing your nose in it ?
That's a small amount and will be done away with. The future is not in oil or gas. It's nukes and renewables - fission if we can get there.
The point is that with an EV we remove end user pollutants and they get "greener" as we improve our grid power sources.
Alex321
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They are, but won't be in 8 years time.
But so what? That wasn't the point. The point was that people are saying it is unaffordable, while choosing to spend MORE on other cars.
figbat
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There’s a lot of oil left. The main issue is the cost of recovery. An oil field is usually shut down when the cost of recovery becomes uneconomical, but it means there’s a lot left in it. A field is only usually 40-50% depleted when it is abandoned. With improving recovery methods and oil price fluctuations the effort needed to get the oil is constantly reconsidered and sometimes a field is reopened. Plus the methods of finding new reserves are improving too.
There may be an amount of ‘proven’ reserves left with a number years associated with it, but there’s a LOT more down there.
Of there will be choice in 8 years time, not everyone has the resources to buy a new car. There will be plenty of decent serviceable used ICE cars available for at least another 15 years.
cougie uk
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Maybe not so many. EV car sales have increased by 48% compared to this year.
I'd imagine that this is only going to increase and there's not going to be many people buying ICE cars leading up to the cut off.
vickster
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Do you mean last year? And sales or leases? There don’t appear to be many cars to actually buy if you want one this year at any rate! 🤷♀️
cougie uk
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Yes 2022 vs 2021.
No idea on leases. I know a few people who have bought new cars this year and they've been delivered ahead of schedule.
cougie uk
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So in 2022 it's going to be about 25% and you'd expect 2023 would be 37% etc etc etc
At some point the numbers of ICEs will have fallen such that large numbers of filling stations will have closed and prices will no doubt increase at those left. The price difference between EVs and ICEs is predicted to drop as production and hence economies of scale increase.
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