Any Runners On Here??

[GrumpyGregry]

Cripes! Even when I was at my peak of fitness a couple of years ago, I don't think I could have run for 90 minutes on stored energy.

(for the benefit of others who stumble onto this thread.

Depends on the intensity of effort on the run. At my current level of fatness I can do 90 - 120 minutes an even steady pace in HR zone 2/"easy" but I can't even manage a 90 minute run at threshold!

e.g. I guarantee you can walk for two hours without needing to eat.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Went for a run in daylight on Friday afternoon, crisp snow everywhere, through one waterside park the snow was virgin. Forgot the path on one side of Kungsholmen (big island in Stockholm) isn't flat. Fell on my arris to the amusement of some dog walkers. No parkruns in Sweden *sad face*

Sunday I plodded around six islands in the city. More thought and about another 3km would have bagged me ten islands in total. Snow covered paths and road shoes made for stately progress and it snowed all the time I was out. Some cracking climbs from water level up to the motorway flyover linking some of the islands, though running alongside traffic on the E2 (on the adjacent cyclepath) ain't all that. Lack of familiarity with some of the places I ran through made for some route finding challenges and I was glad of google maps on the phone.

Helgeandsholmen
Stadholmen
Södermalm
Stora Essingen
Lilla Essingen
Kungsholmen

But these Stockholmers love their running. No bad weather only bad clothes.

 

[Stephenite]

No bad weather only bad clothes.

That's right I've been looking at some Swix cross-country ski jackets today. Not sure if they are ultimately suitable for running but they are very, very nice indeed. And I have a birthday coming up.

Have you looked for Strava/Garmin segments to follow in around Stockholm?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Have you looked for Strava/Garmin segments to follow in around Stockholm?

Some people are so cynical that they actually go out trying to bag segments. Or so I'm told. Good job all the flat ones are just a decent warm up run away...

Not that I will give it any beans whilst there is snow on the ground.

What is equally interesting is where segments ought to be but aren't. The local runners musn't be big on climbs!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

What's everyone else up to running wise?

8.5km in -16 up in Kiruna, started snowing so I cut it short as I couldn't really see where I was going. My first ever whiteout.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

That's right I've been looking at some Swix cross-country ski jackets today. Not sure if they are ultimately suitable for running but they are very, very nice indeed. And I have a birthday coming up.

Have you looked for Strava/Garmin segments to follow in around Stockholm?

I managed to get a Sub4 l/s base layer and a matching Sub4 breathable windshell off the interwebs. Very please.

There don't seem to be any segments in Kiruna. Can't think why!

 

[Tin Pot]

Boom!

Feeling really really pleased with myself after dreading an 8 mile tempo run this morning, but completed it on target pace, and pushed to near my PB on 6.5 miles.

Good lord, I need to stretch now though - I can barely walk

 

[Stephenite]

Blummin' deppa! Came down with a serious attack of plantar fasciitis following that sunny winter jog I posted last month. I was wearing my trail-running shoes which aren't particularly cushioned on hard icy ground, and hadn't been out for nearly a month before that. Combination of which was too much for my PF-prone feet. I felt some pain in my left heel but carried on and it went away. Later that night it became painful and I couldn't put any weight on it at all. I borrowed the neighbour's crutches for a couple of days. Now, a month on, it's getting better - but no running yet though. Stretching and icing (with a half-litre pop bottle) are doing the trick. I think I'm going to have to do preventative stretching and, perhaps, muscle-building/strengthening. What do you guys think?

 

[Tin Pot]

I can't advise, but I have great sympathy! Get well soon.

 

[Kingy]

I ride weekdays then fell run weekends (or at least one day). I live in Glossop so have loads local and tend to do 10 'ish' miles over Bleaklow (usually pass the B-29 Superfortress Wreckage at Higher Shelfstones on the way up or down) or Lantern Pike / Hayfield.

 

[Tin Pot]

Enjoyed the Tunbridge Wells Half Marathon today, finished in 02:04:32

Highly recommend it, but not if you're trying to set a PB.

 

[Ian A]

Second track session in around five months last night. Missed loads of training with an ill daughter who is now better. Damn that was hard. Missing all speed work and putting on weight with the health problems at home no time to train or make proper food was a double whammy! Falling off the back of the group I used to run in but using them as a target rather than dropping to a slower group. I have been doing some longer runs in the evening to keep the endurance up but no stamina for the speed work. Started off slow and got slower . Time to work hard a rebuild .

On the plus side the kids who weren't ill have started doing junior parkrun so I've been volunteering where they run. Win win.

 

[Ian A]

What do people eat/consume when out on long (60+ minute) runs?

I can get to ~50 minutes then my pace slides. Today I was really crashing when on a 90 minute run, and stupidly didn't think to take anything with me.

So, what do you use? I have a couple of Gels I will be taking out next week, but after that I will be sans gel. Cliff Bars have a peanut option (yum) but they are pretty pricey... And I'm not even sure if they should be consumed whilst out...

If I need anything then watery gels but for 60-90 minutes nothing if it's easy pace. More than that and I'll do a loop near my house and leave a bottle in the yard behind something. Worse case a watery gel like an isogel sits well in my stomach but I'll carry one for insurance rather than using it. It comes down to training and some of it is psychological as well. I've done a hilly 14 mile race with no aid stations so took a small water bottle in my belt and was given a jelly baby by a supporter on route which was a nice surprise. A coupe of the top ten finishers I know did it on nothing, but they were out for much less time than me .

 

[Tin Pot]

If I need anything then watery gels but for 60-90 minutes nothing if it's easy pace. More than that and I'll do a loop near my house and leave a bottle in the yard behind something. Worse case a watery gel like an isogel sit well but Ill carry one for insurance rather than using it. It comes down to training and some of it is psychological as well. I've done a hilly 14 mile race no aid stations so took a small water bottle in my belt and was given a jelly baby by a supporter on route which was a nice surprise. A coupe of the top ten finishers I know did it on nothing, but they were out for much less time than me .

IMHO crashing at 50 minutes just means you went too fast for your fitness - you've got enough glycogen in your muscles for at least 90 minutes if you're well nourished.

I'm not sure of the efficacy of runs longer than 90 minutes. I can't recall where it's advocated, but cost/benefit of hammering the kness for a long time will start to over balance.

Your pro runners do a lot of mileage but split it up within a day.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Warning 'Waffling On' Alert


Didn't get to the above event at Todmorden, as other (family) matters happened

Managed to run the Nostell ParkRun
The numbers were quite depleted, mainly due to the heavy rain, in the hour leading up to the start, and it was also a round of the 'Ackworth' Grand Prix series (my Club, but I'm not 'GP'-ing)
http://www.ackworthroadrunnersandac.co.uk/grand-prix-2015/4580591185
17th/97 @ 24:01 (poor turnout, when that bad time gets me a top-20)

That was my last ParkRun; 7th November @ 'Nostell #67' (& last competitive event!)

Until this morning
I made the effort this morning*, & went over

It seemed odd showing up, & know that I felt like I'd not make the distance, or maybe even be last

Yes!, I know I wouldn't be, & that even with my self-imposed time of 'sub 26:00', there'd be plenty behind me

I started well back, but some instinct got the better of me, so I kept setting my eyes on certain runners (from my Club) & catching them, then passing them, & on to the next target


To my surprise, & I guess delight, I lasted the pace, & was only passed by 2 others during the 3 miles
I picked up the '31' tag, & have a self-recorded 24:08



Todays was the 83rd run, I think, as results aren't on the ParkRun website as I type


A couple of (injured) members were out with cameras, so there may be evidence to follow?