Any Runners On Here??

[Stephenite]

Has this been mentioned before? Paul Sinton-Hewitt - parkrun founder in the Grauniad http://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...n-this-country-is-the-best-thing-in-the-world

You're a lucky lot in the UK having parkrun.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Has this been mentioned before? Paul Sinton-Hewitt - parkrun founder in the Grauniad http://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...n-this-country-is-the-best-thing-in-the-world

You're a lucky lot in the UK having parkrun.

They have parkrun in Copenhagen, three of 'em.

But none in Sweden. Though there is Park Running in Stockholm, same sort of thing but not part of parkrun.

 

[Stephenite]

They have parkrun in Copenhagen, three of 'em.

But none in Sweden. Though there is Park Running in Stockholm, same sort of thing but not part of parkrun.

There is a meetup in Oslo on wednesday evenings called Treningscamp. I was out for a run one evening in Vigelands Park (popular runners park) and noticed a loose bunch of huffers-and-puffers. I looked them up online and they appear a friendly bunch. I hope to join in in the new year. Not parkrun though.

Edit: That'll be Frogner Park. Not Vigelands Park, even though it's full of his sculptures

 

[GrumpyGregry]

There is a meetup in Oslo on wednesday evenings called Treningscamp. I was out for a run one evening in Vigelands Park (popular runners park) and noticed a loose bunch of huffers-and-puffers. I looked them up online and they appear a friendly bunch. I hope to join in in the new year. Not parkrun though.

I'm an ex-officio member of a running club in Stockholm; as friendly a bunch of "huffers-and-puffers" as you'll find.

 

[SWSteve]

What do people eat/consume when out on long (60+ minute) runs?

I can get to ~50 minutes then my pace slides. Today I was really crashing when on a 90 minute run, and stupidly didn't think to take anything with me.

So, what do you use? I have a couple of Gels I will be taking out next week, but after that I will be sans gel. Cliff Bars have a peanut option (yum) but they are pretty pricey... And I'm not even sure if they should be consumed whilst out...

 

[smutchin]

If I'm running for 90 minutes somewhere I don't have easy access to food and drink, I wear my camelbak (filled with plain water) and carry a couple of gels. I generally don't carry solid food as I find it hard to eat on the move, but gels are easy.

Torq gels are good and are a bit cheaper than Clif.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

What do people eat/consume when out on long (60+ minute) runs?

I can get to ~50 minutes then my pace slides. Today I was really crashing when on a 90 minute run, and stupidly didn't think to take anything with me.

So, what do you use? I have a couple of Gels I will be taking out next week, but after that I will be sans gel. Cliff Bars have a peanut option (yum) but they are pretty pricey... And I'm not even sure if they should be consumed whilst out...

When I was running a-half-mara-once-or-twice-a-month I ate nothing, and drank only water, when running and my pace was pretty constant throughout. When "racing" I'd take whatever cake or stuff provided at the feed stations and drink water at the water stations, as well as carrying my own water too - so I could drink when I want. But then I actually stop at the water stations, cos I'm odd like that.

What sort of level of intensity are we talking about here? How many miles have you got in your legs? What's your weekly mileage? Your pace sliding could be caused by all sorts of things....

and the answer anyway is real food. Throw the gels in the bin unless you are an elite performer. Others will disagree but life is too short to eat gel.

 

[SWSteve]

The 'weekly mileage' is odd, Garmins training plan all revolved around Distance. I would say I'm running about 45km a week, but the pace is good until around the hour.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

The 'weekly mileage' is odd, Garmins training plan all revolved around Distance. I would say I'm running about 45km a week, but the pace is good until around the hour.

Have you tried running for the first hour at an easier/slower pace, and then seeing the effect, if any, on the after an hour miles?

 

[smutchin]

and the answer anyway is real food. Throw the gels in the bin unless you are an elite performer. Others will disagree but life is too short to eat gel.

I would agree with that for cycling but I find it hard to eat real food while running. Gels are also easier to carry.

 

[Mark Walker]

Hi , regarding food on long runs, check out Tim Noakes MD " Lore of running".
You should , with a varied mixed diet have enough available energy stored in you body to last for runs/races of 90 mins.
I must say that the hype around energy drinks and gels has been a triumph of marketing , there is no need for the amount energy products that cyclist/ runners are consuming.
The problems associated with "been unable to go the distance " more often than not is down to sufficient training and pacing not to lack of nutrition.
I have run and raced for 30 years, training upwards of 110 - 120 miles a week and never once "bonked".
My advise to any athlete would be to get your overall diet right , and train enough for the distance you are cycling/running /racing.
regards
Mark

 

[smutchin]

You should , with a varied mixed diet have enough available energy stored in you body to last for runs/races of 90 mins.

Cripes! Even when I was at my peak of fitness a couple of years ago, I don't think I could have run for 90 minutes on stored energy.

Having said that, it's not often I run for that long very often, so I expect you're right that it's down to insufficient training. I bow to the superior knowledge of those with more experience than me.

I must say that the hype around energy drinks and gels has been a triumph of marketing , there is no need for the amount energy products that cyclist/ runners are consuming.

Again, I would agree that they're overused but they do have their place. I certainly wouldn't advocate using gels at the same rate that pro cyclists get through them. For a 90 minute run, I would carry two but only plan to use one - the second for emergency use.

My advise to any athlete would be to get your overall diet right , and train enough for the distance you are cycling/running /racing.

Can't argue with that. Building up to longer distances gradually is the best way for your body to become acclimatised to them. I've certainly made the mistake before of trying to up my distance too much too soon.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Minus eight on my run tonight. Didn't fall over whixh, given every surface is packed snow and ice, was a surprise. Central Stockholm (Normalm and Kungsholmen) is visually stunning at night.

 

[Stephenite]

A slow-paced jog around the local lake today. First time out since before the festive period. 4.5km, -11C and beautifully sunny

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Beautiful

-13 for the walk home tonight