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alex_cycles
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This one could be a bit tough for me. I've sorted the entries by 5m w/kg as Petit KoM is a 6m climb. I also know that Parky won't be racing.
I shall aim to try and stay on for climb 1. If I can do that, I'll be very pleased.
"do a better job"? How do you suggest Zwift create a baseline score for people if not from their power data in the last 90 days?
Take Martin as an example - he hasn't ridden on Zwift all summer so what would you do differently with his baseline score if you were Zwift, bearing in mind there's no way they can know what he's been doing during that time.
And as for theses B Cat riders who trounced you - do they still have a ZRS in the 200s or low 300s or is ZRS working exactly as it should and increasing their score appropriately so they have to race in higher categories now?
Hi Paul, there are some anomalies with the racing score probably the earlier part, where a few B cats have low scores, I raced a few
Maybe this is from less races they had done. I admit there does seem to be less 'out of category ' riders now RS has been up and running for a little while.
Results for me are aligning between the old ABCD categories and RS. A few more months should see tighter categories
This is tomorrows event.
Maybe this is from less races they had done. I admit there does seem to be less 'out of category ' riders now RS has been up and running for a little while.
Results for me are aligning between the old ABCD categories and RS. A few more months should see tighter categories
This is tomorrows event.
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alex_cycles
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They should be barred, yes. Pretty sure that was one of the series settings
Booo
What I lost on the first climb I might have been able to claw back on the flat and then some
alex_cycles
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Booo
What I lost on the first climb I might have been able to claw back on the flat and then some
Tron or Pinarello + ENVE 7.8 probably the best bet for tomorrow
Yeah sure I do get that some people are under-scored and others over-scored based on their current ability. And I also fully accept it's not perfect - nothing ever is. And there's always room for improvement, especially with a new system.
But my point is WHY are these people initially categorised like that? It's not an "anomaly" if it's actually based on their actual past 90 day power numbers (which seems like as good a thing to base the initial score on as anything).
And if they then get upgraded as they finish highly in races and/or do higher power numbers then that's the system working exactly as designed, not the system being flawed.
Are there loads of people who have been given really low or really high ZRS for literally no reason and that bears no relation to their 90 day power numbers? And are these people retaining that excessively high or excessively low ZRS after winning or losing races? If yes then I 100% agree - there's anomalies, the system is badly flawed, they need to do much better.
But if there's logic behind the initial scores - even if it doesn't reflect a reality Zwift have no way of seeing - and if the ZRS scores are adjusting quickly with results as they should be, then I really don't see the problem and we all just need to give it a bit of time?
alex_cycles
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Spot on really. I think it will take a few months for enough data to be collected to get it really good. Zwiftracing.app was no different.
At the moment everything is compounded by the time of year, too.
If I get my arse handed to me today with a few B cats listed in the event, then the initial ranking is somewhat off point.
I'm not personally bothered I self filter those who aren't in my categories or race series
alex_cycles
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I'm expecting to be the fastest Oxfordshire 55yo in my race too
It'll be hard for anyone to take the League off you now anyway
So how do you suggest the initial ranking should have been calculated to avoid this?
Cirrus
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Regards the bike options, frames n wheels, do they make a significant difference on Zwift?
Have just reached level 11 and wondering what to do with my drops 😂
steverob
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@Cirrus This guide is what you want to consult: https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-bikes-at-each-level/
The time savings listed on that page refer to what you get over a race of about an hour in length, so the gains are quite modest overall, but they still can make a difference. As you'll see, generally investing in better wheels makes a bigger difference than better frames.
The time savings listed on that page refer to what you get over a race of about an hour in length, so the gains are quite modest overall, but they still can make a difference. As you'll see, generally investing in better wheels makes a bigger difference than better frames.
