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[steverob]

The usual CC#68 video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_JyejyH9s
Watch as the awesome foursome take on (and overtake) most all-comers. Don't stick around at the end to see me limp over the line though!

 

[bridgy]

The usual CC#68 video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_JyejyH9s


Watch as the awesome foursome take on (and overtake) most all-comers. Don't stick around at the end to see me limp over the line though!

Love the kit choice

 

[BurningLegs]

Do we think there will be any big changes for season 2 of the ZRL?

I know they have had a lot of feedback on WTRL facebook, both in terms of how many TTTs, how many points per race and down to what number and even whether they will use a different categorisation system than Zwiftpower.

Doubt they'll change too much in one go, it's already a huge administrative undertaking. Anyone any strong thoughts on how it should go?

I am hoping for two changes:

• Fewer TTTs - I know it's their comfort zone, and TTTs are good in a race series but I think every other week is a bit much. I think they will keep the current mix though. WTRL = TTT.
• Points for more places - we consistently see over 100 participants in the races, so top 30 could easily be extended. I reckon they will do it.

I think that's a reference to our team tag issue last week- bit of an odd one, Nick was still using the team 23 tag, which for some reason seemed to link him in with the army team? Really strange. So he didn't get any points for us, but hopefully thats the only impact, I think the other team may have been dq'd but surely must have been reinstated? @BurningLegs

Yes - Sam Miles is a member of the army team that I disqualified last week. Honest mistake with the tagging:

@mjd1988 did email WTRL about it, and I'm surprised they didn't at least remove me from the Army team so their results count? That seems quite harsh to be honest.

 

[mjd1988]

The usual CC#68 video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_JyejyH9s
Watch as the awesome foursome take on (and overtake) most all-comers. Don't stick around at the end to see me limp over the line though!

We grouped together really well at the start.

Only just remembered we thought we had lost @Joffey with 30 seconds to go. I drop off at 1540, I was shouting bloody murder on mute, took just over 5 minutes to get sorted again.

Watch always takes about 5 minutes to catch up with higher heart rate for some reason

 

[mjd1988]

I am hoping for two changes:

• Fewer TTTs - I know it's their comfort zone, and TTTs are good in a race series but I think every other week is a bit much. I think they will keep the current mix though. WTRL = TTT.
• Points for more places - we consistently see over 100 participants in the races, so top 30 could easily be extended. I reckon they will do it.

Yes - Sam Miles is a member of the army team that I disqualified last week. Honest mistake with the tagging:
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@mjd1988 did email WTRL about it, and I'm surprised they didn't at least remove me from the Army team so their results count? That seems quite harsh to be honest.

Yeah I emailed as well, they said they couldnt reinstate you in our team which I thought was a bit crap but fair enough our responsibility. Totally unfair if they are punished for it (otherwise we could just sabotage teams for fun)

I agree with your thoughts, I think start and end with a TTT maybe, maybe even give double points for it, but every week is too much.

I'd either like to see points given up to 50th place or a change to a GC series (I don't think they'll do GC though).

 

[theboxers]

OT

I'm after a tubeless wheelset for a rider of my heft (125kg last measured, heaviest bike is a 15kg ebike (measured)). I'm on a budget so will have to rule out some of the exotica out there (🤤). I've found quite a few out there with a 130kg+ limit (that piece of info is not that easy to find on many wheel sites).

FYI I am currently riding Mavic Aksium's and they appear to be doing ok even though I am over their limit, not out of true yet after about 1k Miles.

I am leaning toward the DTSwiss 1800/1600 series due to the 130/140kg limit depending on model. Are they a good choice or would a Scribe DutyD, Hunt 4 season or Strada Big Fella be better? I know there are others out there.

The DTSwiss wheelsets appear to be readily available unlike some of the others.

I'm not too worried about gains in performance. I am interested in gains in longevity of components. Light weight wheels seem to be for light weight riders . Most of the suitable wheelsets appear to be in the 1650-2000g range .

Any advice gratefully received

 

[Norry1]

I'm sure

OT

I'm after a tubeless wheelset for a rider of my heft (125kg last measured, heaviest bike is a 15kg ebike (measured)). I'm on a budget so will have to rule out some of the exotica out there (🤤). I've found quite a few out there with a 130kg+ limit (that piece of info is not that easy to find on many wheel sites).

FYI I am currently riding Mavic Aksium's and they appear to be doing ok even though I am over their limit, not out of true yet after about 1k Miles.

I am leaning toward the DTSwiss 1800/1600 series due to the 130/140kg limit depending on model. Are they a good choice or would a Scribe DutyD, Hunt 4 season or Strada Big Fella be better? I know there are others out there.

The DTSwiss wheelsets appear to be readily available unlike some of the others.

I'm not too worried about gains in performance. I am interested in gains in longevity of components. Light weight wheels seem to be for light weight riders . Most of the suitable wheelsets appear to be in the 1650-2000g range .

Any advice gratefully received

I'm sure you'll get some helpful input here - but you may be better posting up in the main Forums - many more readers.

 

[Norry1]

Do we think there will be any big changes for season 2 of the ZRL?

I know they have had a lot of feedback on WTRL facebook, both in terms of how many TTTs, how many points per race and down to what number and even whether they will use a different categorisation system than Zwiftpower.

Doubt they'll change too much in one go, it's already a huge administrative undertaking. Anyone any strong thoughts on how it should go?

A bit like @BurningLegs I would like to see a few less TTTs even though they are really good. Maybe in a 10 week series have a TTT for the first race, last race and one in the middle.

I also think increasing the scoring places would be good. Maybe to 60?

Other than that, I don't think much needs tweaking. I'm sure there will continue to be mutterings about A's in B etc. and have people sandbagged but that should start to sort itself out.

They could add some sort of social aspect like having forums/ FB groups for each Division, which could spice things up a bit

 

[Joffey]

10 Races could see maybe 3 TTT, 1 ITT, 2 flat stages (1 short 1 long), 2 rolling, 2 hilly (1 up the Alpe) - would be epic. The ITT would be like the BC ones, mass start, no drafting and points maybe down to 100?

I'd personally make the leagues smaller, maybe 10 teams, less teams in mid table mediocrity. That might make 70 or so riders then you could have points to 50.

@Norry1's social aspect would be great too - not sure how they would do that though!

 

[Del C]

I don’t really have an inside track on what will happen in Season 2, although I sometimes pick up small snippets in the WTRL messenger chat.

The format of Season 1 was down to Zwift. I‘m sure there would have been TTTs anyway, but I know other race formats were discussed, and I’m certain that ITTs were ruled out by Zwift as they didn’t think they would be good to watch on the streaming channels.

I know they are discussing format changes for Season 2, but I don’t know any detail. I’m guessing from a few comments that the scoring may be extended beyond Top 30, but I don’t know how far.

I’d support both the main points made about more points and less TTTs. Maybe a more GC like format, with Hilly stages, Flat stages, TTTs, ITTs and Crits. We’ll soon find out.

 

[bobinski]

Personally, I wouldnt want to see fewer TTT's. I love them but i understand they are not for everyone.

@theboxers
Dont hunt do a gravel tubeless set for heavier riders..here ya go.
https://www.huntbikewheels.com/coll...roducts/hunt-4-season-superdura-disc-wheelset

Or get a set made up by someone like Malcom at Cycle clinic?

 

[peterob]

@theboxers
Dont hunt do a gravel tubeless set for heavier riders..here ya go.
https://www.huntbikewheels.com/coll...roducts/hunt-4-season-superdura-disc-wheelset

@theboxers - Another vote for the Hunt wheels from me. I’ve got a set of their 4 Seasons Gravel disc wheels on my gravel bike and they’ve been bomb-proof for me and rated up to 115 Kgs rider weight. The Superdura ones that Bob has linked to are essentially the same but with a higher spoke count (32 as opposed to 28) and a stronger rim alloy - so will be pretty indestructible.

 

[theboxers]

@bobinski @peterob I looked at those. It's the 3 month+ wait I'm not keen on.

Also I'd have to drop back to 28mm tyres as the 32's I run will need to be inflated above the 70psi max according to Hunt

The other thing is I was looking at upping the profile of the wheel to about what the bike should have come with, 32mm, the hunts are 25mm .

I'll keep looking. I just need to find the right VFM for me. It may mean spending more than I really want to .

 

[Norry1]

Great blog Martin , are these indoor or outdoor power numbers ? Do you find any difference in the indoor and outdoor figures ? If you don’t get chance to improve the 60 min power for this year , maybe a few of us could organise a ride up the Alpe or Ven Top for a nice bit of constant resistance .

I mentioned a few weeks ago about only having the one power target left to achieve this year - that being my 60 minute power. My attempt is now scheduled for this Saturday. It will be an outdoor ride. The target is to beat 254W. I'll report back afterwards

 

[bobinski]

@theboxers Hunt often have a lead time for parts coming from the Far East. Stick levels on parts and bikes everywhere are problematic so if the wallet allows perhaps put a refundable deposit on the Hunts while you are looking elsewhere?