That would be good - but looking at Lee's results he seems to be improving and consolidating in A rather than slipping back to B. Good for him, but not helpful in the current WTRL set-up.
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That would be good - but looking at Lee's results he seems to be improving and consolidating in A rather than slipping back to B. Good for him, but not helpful in the current WTRL set-up.
Unfortunatley I don't think Lee joining us will be an option unless WTRL change the rules to allow mixed Cat A & B teams like they do in the Thursday TTT series (or if we enter a team in Cat A with only 1 Cat A rider
), because Lee is a very solid current Cat A rider now based on the current criteria. The only people riding above category in ZRL are those that started the league in a lower Cat and improved so got upgraded during the season.It's a real shame not to have Lee with us, and we could have a whole other conversation about the fairness of the category system etc 😕
<Tommy>
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Unfortunatley I don't think Lee joining us will be an option unless WTRL change the rules to allow mixed Cat A & B teams like they do in the Thursday TTT series (or if we enter a team in Cat A with only 1 Cat A rider
It's a real shame not to have Lee with us, and we could have a whole other conversation about the fairness of the category system etc 😕
I was going on the premise the lee hasn’t raced in a while on zwift so might drop back into B.
Oh yes. I looked at his latest results, but didn't notice the dates.
@BurningLegs I'd agree with Paul re avoiding Salisbury - lots of lorries on that road. I don't know the roads that well but the route on Paul's map is what I would probably look at, although i do know a nice traffic free route from salisbury hospital if you know a route from Southampton to Salisbury hospital via country roads.
Re the switchbacks, that drop used to be a mare but they've relaid the road and the surface is fine now. But an alternative is to take the last right turn before you get to the switchbacks for that descent instead - very steep too but straight.
Lots of good climbs in and around Shaftesbury. A nice climb out of Mere too, heading to the Deverils, but this is slightly out of your way unless you're staying over at your relations.
berty bassett
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Don’t worry about it lads
As I see it you are all knocking out 300w
In a race , if you had any self control and stopped stuffing your faces you would all be in A as well but with the season of excess coming up I guess you will all be in C in jan
Bitter !!! Me ? 🤪
As I see it you are all knocking out 300w
In a race , if you had any self control and stopped stuffing your faces you would all be in A as well but with the season of excess coming up I guess you will all be in C in jan
Bitter !!! Me ? 🤪
@BurningLegs - I have a free Kamoot account and threw in Southampton to Gillingham and it suggested this route. Nice and 'rolling' 
I downloaded the GPX so if you want this PM me your email and I'll ping across 
I downloaded the GPX so if you want this PM me your email and I'll ping across Lee's last race was 14th Nov, and was above Cat A limits. So that won't drop off until mid Feb. (And even then looking at his previous races if he came back as a Cat B and then went over the Cat B power limits in a ZRL race he'd probably get DQ'd as that's exactly the kind of scenario ZRL have DQ'd people - as opposed to what they consider genuine improvement). So no, I don't think that will help unfortunately.
<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
I’d probably have to start sacrificing vital organs at this point to lose much more weight. How’s about you start eating proper meals and grow to normal size and we can meet in the middle!
And before you say it. Having a smaller gob probably wouldn’t reduce my weight by much... It’d just reduce your headaches slightly 😄
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BurningLegs
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I have had similar thoughts at times! I have the opposite issue where my power numbers are pretty low, but thankfully I'm fairly lightweight so get away with it. Any additional weight and I will drop into C Cat!
....and any additional power and you'll go up to Cat A like you did before! You're walking a Cat B tightrope Nick!
I have had similar thoughts at times! I have the opposite issue where my power numbers are pretty low, but thankfully I'm fairly lightweight so get away with it. Any additional weight and I will drop into C Cat!
<Tommy>
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Just thinking the same. Nick you think the new power meter was a reality check, or the new addition to the family had meant less time for the turbo? Maybe a combo of the two with more emphasis on the latter!
BurningLegs
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Mostly been new baby and a few bugs in a row. I was surprised at how little difference there was between the power meter and trainer. I did drop some watts but my numbers were still in A Cat until baby and illness in August and September.
I'm getting close again so do need to try and race smarter. Averaged 4w/kg including aero tuck at every opportunity on Tuesday!
If a race went up some big climbs like the Alpe I think I would put out A numbers, but probably not high enough for immediate DQ.
Edit - just had a look at Zwiftpower:
Green line is where I fitted the power meter, red line is where I lost my mojo.
Strangely, avg powers are identical in the events immediately before and after power meter install! There is only really one more event to compare (the iTT), but the numbers there are comparable too. So I don't think it was the power meter that sent me backwards. It's a shame that I didn't get more races in before losing my mojo, especially climbs - that would have made it clearer one way or the other.
You can see the long lay-off. I wasn't feeling right for the WTRL time trial but pulled through it, then came down with illness and it took me until October to get back on the bike - that is where I lost the watts really.
I'm getting close again so do need to try and race smarter. Averaged 4w/kg including aero tuck at every opportunity on Tuesday!
If a race went up some big climbs like the Alpe I think I would put out A numbers, but probably not high enough for immediate DQ.
Edit - just had a look at Zwiftpower:
Green line is where I fitted the power meter, red line is where I lost my mojo.
Strangely, avg powers are identical in the events immediately before and after power meter install! There is only really one more event to compare (the iTT), but the numbers there are comparable too. So I don't think it was the power meter that sent me backwards. It's a shame that I didn't get more races in before losing my mojo, especially climbs - that would have made it clearer one way or the other.
You can see the long lay-off. I wasn't feeling right for the WTRL time trial but pulled through it, then came down with illness and it took me until October to get back on the bike - that is where I lost the watts really.
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Is it worth a recruitment post on the main Cyclechat/virtual cycling message board? Another place might be a post on the cyclechat strava group? Tempt folk in that aren’t in this thread regularly or who are put off when they see there’s almost 2600 pages and go knows how many posts to Wade through. 😬And whilst we are talking WTRL, ZRL and a 3rd team is there anyone on here that I haven't contacted already in Cats C & D who might fancy racing in the Zwift Racing League in the new year?
Nothing too serious, just trying to make sure we have between and 6 riders 4 riders every week. More social than anything - just want a bit of fun and if the chance presents itself to score some points well we can have a go...
Let me know if you are interested and I'll add you to the chat. Ideal for people who can't really commit every week or have never done something like this before. It's quite good once you get into it!
If you don't have the stamina to wade through 2600 pages of chat I'm not sure that's the kind of riders we want
Seriously though, good idea Al, I'll do it this afternoon
- Shall I ask for Cat B riders too @mjd1988 @BurningLegs??
