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[Del C]

Also a lower power B rider whose specialty is drafting at the back then sprinting at the end isn't high on anyone's wishlist maybe if I drop down to c at some point

actually if a team have designated front people driving the team forward and you have the better sprint and can sit in until needed..,.

The categories of the teams isn’t standard mate. I raced in latte class. Which was 3 b cat and the rest c cat so it works well. Get involved it’s a great format. I would join you guys but my boys football is Thursdays now so can’t do them anymore.

As the guys have said the team makes up determine the class you ride in. There are 4 classes: Espresso, Frappe, Latte and Mocha. If you have more than 3 A riders, you ride in Espresso, more than 3 B riders in Frappe, etc. That tends to mean that an Espresso team will have lots of A riders, and some B riders. A Frappe team will be mainly B, with some C riders. And so on.

You do get Frappe teams with one or two A riders, and the rest Bs and Cs. And there are Latte teams with 3 B riders and then mainly Cs. That tends to mean the stronger riders do more of the work on the front. This week we tried varying our tactics by taking one minute pulls on the front and saving our stronger riders for longer pulls in the last quarter of the race. I'm one of the weaker riders in my team, so if we've got 8 riding as we had this week, then there's no problem in burning me out before we hit the last quarter of the race as its the time of the 4th rider across the line that decides the team's time.

So, in summary don't worry about your style of riding. You'll fit into a team somehow.

Yeah I've considered it but wouldn't want to let people down

Anyone thinking about the Thursday TTT shouldn’t worry about committing to racing every Thursday.. It’s recognised that people have lives outside of zwift. We had one out last week and 3 will be out this week. We hope to arrange cover but if not will roll with a smaller team.

As long as you let people know if you're available or not in good time, this shouldn't be an issue. As @bobinski says, especially at this time of year people like to ride outside and they have holidays, so the teams will vary from week to week.

We had 8 this week, and could have had others available, but we've also been down to 4 another week.

I think the main thing is try it out. Most teams will let you ride as a triallist, and then you decide to commit or not.

 

[bobinski]

What Del said 😁

mixing cats up in teams was a genius stroke. At first my ego meant I wanted to ride a class above Latte and benefit from A’s pulling me along but actually I probably have had to work harder as one of the stronger riders on our team and I have enjoyed the responsibility and benefitted too. I am in awe at times at the way the C’s turn themselves inside out to stay with us too.

 

[Del C]

What Del said 😁

mixing cats up in teams was a genius stroke. At first my ego meant I wanted to ride a class above Latte and benefit from A’s pulling me along but actually I probably have had to work harder as one of the stronger riders on our team and I have enjoyed the responsibility and benefitted too. I am in awe at times at the way the C’s turn themselves inside out to stay with us too.

I've had the opposite experience, as I'm riding in Frappe. That's good for the ego as @bobinski says, but it means I'm the one turning myself inside out to stay with the A and faster B riders.

There's no doubt I've got stronger through this, but I do wonder what would happen if I moved down to Latte, where I'd probably be one of the stronger riders. That could even happen in the winter when we have more riders and likely more teams.

Practically, it means I ride for a mid table Frappe team, whereas @bobinski and @Brendan Parker 's teams are usually in contention at the top of the Latte league. If you get into the top 10, you get a Premier League invite for the following week. Each of the leagues has its own Premier League race each week, where the invites are based on the previous week's results.

 

[BurningLegs]

Well my son and I have a cold.

@<Tommy> - I’m not using it as an excuse but hypothetically, if a rider said that in hindsight they may have been off the boil because they were brewing a cold, how would that score?

 

[Del C]

Well my son and I have a cold.

@<Tommy> - I’m not using it as an excuse but hypothetically, if a rider said that in hindsight they may have been off the boil because they were brewing a cold, how would that score?

Well, I'll wait for the master to arrive and make his judgement, but at a rough guess I'd say you're heading massively into negative territory here!

 

[bobinski]

Well, I'll wait for the master to arrive and make his judgement, but at a rough guess I'd say you're heading massively into negative territory here!

not sure if he is scratching an itch or looking to tease the bear😁

 

[<Tommy>]

Well my son and I have a cold.

@<Tommy> - I’m not using it as an excuse but hypothetically, if a rider said that in hindsight they may have been off the boil because they were brewing a cold, how would that score?

Well all I can say is what a relief it’s only a hypothetical question eh mate!

That way you get to keep what dignity you still have. And I don’t have to hand out a score so low it would even make Bob and Del look like model citizens!

 

[theboxers]

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Nearly went for a Mason before I bought the Cube. Lovely bikes.

 

[CXRAndy]

Also I’m surprised Andy hasn’t mentioned Chinese wheels yet. Must be date night!

 

[BurningLegs]

@CXRAndy

https://github.com/fiveohhh/zwift-steerer

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Zwift/comments/ieo910/steering_in_zwift_without_a_sterzo_smart/

 

[CXRAndy]

@CXRAndy

https://github.com/fiveohhh/zwift-steerer

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Zwift/comments/ieo910/steering_in_zwift_without_a_sterzo_smart/

Some clever people out there, already sorted the protocols, now miniaturisation of circuit

Doubt my humble idea is worth it now the hackers have jumped on board. I expect to see a little kit available soon

 

[Ketty]

I think these guys are a fairly new cycling club, but they seem to set their teams up weekly via their webpage and email.

So, a couple of possible advantages so if you're Facebook averse or think you may not be able to commit.

Firstly, obviously you don't have to use Facebook, although if you use it just for cycling as @<Tommy> suggests I still think this shouldn't be a big issue.

Secondly, it looks like you have to sign up each week to race, so you're opting in rather than opting out. That should reduce any fear of letting people down

Thanks for this and all the other replies. Will give it a go the week after this next one and see if I get picked up!!

 

[Ketty]

As the guys have said the team makes up determine the class you ride in. There are 4 classes: Espresso, Frappe, Latte and Mocha. If you have more than 3 A riders, you ride in Espresso, more than 3 B riders in Frappe, etc. That tends to mean that an Espresso team will have lots of A riders, and some B riders. A Frappe team will be mainly B, with some C riders. And so on.

You do get Frappe teams with one or two A riders, and the rest Bs and Cs. And there are Latte teams with 3 B riders and then mainly Cs. That tends to mean the stronger riders do more of the work on the front. This week we tried varying our tactics by taking one minute pulls on the front and saving our stronger riders for longer pulls in the last quarter of the race. I'm one of the weaker riders in my team, so if we've got 8 riding as we had this week, then there's no problem in burning me out before we hit the last quarter of the race as its the time of the 4th rider across the line that decides the team's time.

So, in summary don't worry about your style of riding. You'll fit into a team somehow.




As long as you let people know if you're available or not in good time, this shouldn't be an issue. As @bobinski says, especially at this time of year people like to ride outside and they have holidays, so the teams will vary from week to week.

We had 8 this week, and could have had others available, but we've also been down to 4 another week.

I think the main thing is try it out. Most teams will let you ride as a triallist, and then you decide to commit or not.

Great thanks for this; makes me feel more at ease giving it a go

 

[IrishAl]

Just noticed a Neo 2 firmware update released in early July - now 0.0.36. Very little info but the other than the what’s new info which reads “low power noise reduction”. I have yet to test but I assume it means they switch off the internal cooling fan.

On a side note I read again the TacxFAQ site review of the 0.0.34 firmware update. Interestingly the site compares the neo2 to Assioma duo and that site reports 5% Under reporting as various flywheel speeds On the Neo2. This would concur with what I’ve seen but no fix seems to be coming.

 

[<Tommy>]

Just noticed a Neo 2 firmware update released in early July - now 0.0.36. Very little info but the other than the what’s new info which reads “low power noise reduction”. I have yet to test but I assume it means they switch off the internal cooling fan.

On a side note I read again the TacxFAQ site review of the 0.0.34 firmware update. Interestingly the site compares the neo2 to Assioma duo and that site reports 5% Under reporting as various flywheel speeds On the Neo2. This would concur with what I’ve seen but no fix seems to be coming.

I think the under reporting thing is put down to ‘drive train losses’. Where by the neo reads power at the flywheel it losses power compared to power meters that read power at the crank or pedal. But Tacx stand by their accuracy claim because what 1% accuracy means is that there is no more than a 1% variation in power accuracy at any time.