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Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
Possibly a glitch... 🤔
ha ha ... I was impressed there for a second, as I had visions of your legs spinning into a blur :laugh:

Do you have a separate cadence sensor, or is it built in to your trainer? Mine's build into the NEO but to be honest I'm not sure how accurate it is - never checked it.
 
My smal desk fan is being used to cool our son's bedroom during this heat wave. It has had me looking at possible replacements in the garage - it is unbearable in there with just one fan.

My current setup is THIS floor standing fan up front (3133m p/h) and THIS desk fan behind (2937m p/h) - giving a combined total of 6070m p/h on full blast, which they always are!

I'm considering an upgrade to THIS up front (7302m p/h) and using the current floor standing fan as the rear fan (3133m p/h). That would be a total of 10435m /ph of cooling - over 50% increase. I'm a little worried that all that airflow close the ground in my garage might kick dust around - I might need to actually clean the garage floor! :laugh:

Any thoughts? Is there such a thing as too much cooling on a turbo, and could this be it??? I'm pretty sure the new fan would be too much in the winter, but I would have a smaller fan available for the winter season because it wouldn't be cooling my sons bedroom...
 

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
My smal desk fan is being used to cool our son's bedroom during this heat wave. It has had me looking at possible replacements in the garage - it is unbearable in there with just one fan.

My current setup is THIS floor standing fan up front (3133m p/h) and THIS desk fan behind (2937m p/h) - giving a combined total of 6070m p/h on full blast, which they always are!

I'm considering an upgrade to THIS up front (7302m p/h) and using the current floor standing fan as the rear fan (3133m p/h). That would be a total of 10435m /ph of cooling - over 50% increase. I'm a little worried that all that airflow close the ground in my garage might kick dust around - I might need to actually clean the garage floor! :laugh:

Any thoughts? Is there such a thing as too much cooling on a turbo, and could this be it??? I'm pretty sure the new fan would be too much in the winter, but I would have a smaller fan available for the winter season because it wouldn't be cooling my sons bedroom...
I just have the one fan (the one your son is using) and it's usually just on setting 2, but then I'm in an indoor room that is out of the sun from mid morning. Not sure I'd want anything blowing on my back, as be worried about having cold sweat and giving me a bad back (it's my age!). Like you, I'd be concerned about the dust being blown up - heaving breathing with all that dust is probably not a good combination.
 

Spartak

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Location
Bristolian
ha ha ... I was impressed there for a second, as I had visions of your legs spinning into a blur :laugh:

Do you have a separate cadence sensor, or is it built in to your trainer? Mine's build into the NEO but to be honest I'm not sure how accurate it is - never checked it.

Use a Wahoo cadence sensor attached to my shoe... 😉
 

<Tommy>

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Location
Camden, London
My smal desk fan is being used to cool our son's bedroom during this heat wave. It has had me looking at possible replacements in the garage - it is unbearable in there with just one fan.

My current setup is THIS floor standing fan up front (3133m p/h) and THIS desk fan behind (2937m p/h) - giving a combined total of 6070m p/h on full blast, which they always are!

I'm considering an upgrade to THIS up front (7302m p/h) and using the current floor standing fan as the rear fan (3133m p/h). That would be a total of 10435m /ph of cooling - over 50% increase. I'm a little worried that all that airflow close the ground in my garage might kick dust around - I might need to actually clean the garage floor! :laugh:

Any thoughts? Is there such a thing as too much cooling on a turbo, and could this be it??? I'm pretty sure the new fan would be too much in the winter, but I would have a smaller fan available for the winter season because it wouldn't be cooling my sons bedroom...

I just ordered both of these last night. I’m going to get the blue one to point up at my handlebars. The silver one is replacing the one my eldest has just claimed which was behind me.

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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Just get 36" floor fan, they move nearly 10,000 ft/min over a wide area. :okay:

The floor driers are very powerful directional fans. I have a couple from a build job
 

JuhaL

Guru
my personal opinion is that the turbo is harderwhen you push harder, heat and no let up in pedalling but when you get outside and factor in wind resistance , pot holes etc , junctions , traffic , gravel and the all important balance and steering outdoor will be harder to maintain the same power . very rare that i pedal down a steep hill like on turbo , imagine what that does to average power
on the turbo you can tank down a hill at 50mph and take a 90 degree corner without breaking - it will end in tears if you try that in the real world
I think there is one factor what make indoor training on Zwift easier than outdoor riding, that is virtual pacing. When i go ride to outside i do almost every ride alone without draft. In this location where i live in Finland is not steep climbs like on Zwift, but i take easier climbs what i found with higher power and try to improvise like they would be a steeper climbs. Like Carl said it’s also easier ride harder on Zwift knowing well that you can stop anytime you like if you don’t feel well.
 

<Tommy>

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Location
Camden, London
They look pretty serious, @<Tommy>

Any idea how many cubic metres per hour of air you'll be throwing at yourself??

Not enough!! 😄

Seriously I don’t know to be honest mate. I doubt I’ll put any of them up full blast though. At the moment I have two wall mounted fans above the screen. One pointing up at me from under the screen. And one behind me. I’m planning to get rid of the two a above the screen as they’re a bit weak, and replace them with the one that is currently pointing up. Then put the blue one pointing up and the silver behind me. Having the wind come from all angles on a lower setting is my preference over having 1 fan from 1 direction.

We also have portable air con units in the house and I’ve toyed with the idea of using one of those. But its a bit more to think about turning it on X amount of time before a session so I don’t think it’s ideal.
 

<Tommy>

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Location
Camden, London
Cat 3 hurricane ... best get some serious insurance :laugh:

😄

I just trawled my phone photo album and found this pic.

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As I say, I’m going to get rid of both the fans above the tv and replace them with the one directly below it. Then put the new blue one on the red unit you can see. I think I mentioned it before, but I have them all controlled from a multi way dimmer switch to the left of the bike. I can’t recommend this enough, as the combination of multiple fans and speed control means you can get it just right for the conditions.
 

IrishAl

** Full Time Pro **
Location
N.Ireland
I think there is one factor what make indoor training on Zwift easier than outdoor riding, that is virtual pacing. When i go ride to outside i do almost every ride alone without draft. In this location where i live in Finland is not steep climbs like on Zwift, but i take easier climbs what i found with higher power and try to improvise like they would be a steeper climbs. Like Carl said it’s also easier ride harder on Zwift knowing well that you can stop anytime you like if you don’t feel well.

I think I read a message Somewhere here in the haze (what day is this?) since my Everesting that it would be easier Challenge outdoors than on the indoor trainer - maybe the poster was thinking of the mental stimulation outdoors? I would love to do it outside but I don’t think I could, certainly without Better training.

Indoors I had the added advantage of being able to jump off the bike every hour for the descents...I grabbed a fresh set of shorts each time, 8 changes, did some good manly hygiene down there - Wash, blowdry, talc, chamois (no pics please I hear ya) and have to say I’ve zero discomfort down there. Bike handling on a descent isnt my best strength I have to say, so doing around 2 hours descending outdoors, fatigues, sore wrists, I don’t think would end good for me.

Another thing I found was in my dark moments on ascent 7 . I think I would have fallen off the bike outdoors. I really wasn’t feeling well And Outdoor I would have climbed off and been sick in the hedge. I did threaten to be sick on the carpet but I got evil eyes from 👩

so perhaps my next challenge will be an outdoor Everest...but not this year until I forget this one.
 

Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
My smal desk fan is being used to cool our son's bedroom during this heat wave. It has had me looking at possible replacements in the garage - it is unbearable in there with just one fan.

My current setup is THIS floor standing fan up front (3133m p/h) and THIS desk fan behind (2937m p/h) - giving a combined total of 6070m p/h on full blast, which they always are!

I'm considering an upgrade to THIS up front (7302m p/h) and using the current floor standing fan as the rear fan (3133m p/h). That would be a total of 10435m /ph of cooling - over 50% increase. I'm a little worried that all that airflow close the ground in my garage might kick dust around - I might need to actually clean the garage floor! :laugh:

Any thoughts? Is there such a thing as too much cooling on a turbo, and could this be it??? I'm pretty sure the new fan would be too much in the winter, but I would have a smaller fan available for the winter season because it wouldn't be cooling my sons bedroom...
I use the three speed one you're thinking of getting up front. Usually set to speed 2 in winter and speed 3 in the summer.

Recently when its been hot I've added to that by using your current pedestal model as well. I've got it set up front as well at the moment, so the big one blow upwards and the pedestal blows across me.

I've been thinking of trying the pedestal behind me, but for no good reason I haven't got round to it.
 
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