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<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
Great work Del 👍👍
Just want to say two things. Secondly the course we can chop and change from one week to the next. Secondly the teams. I think we have to be a little bit fluid with it and not get too hung up on a precise number for each team. I think bunching people together relatively closely based on how quick they normally go is better. For example around me at the moment out of the people interested I think is bridgy, Lee, and Alan. So that is 4 of us. But alongo, Pete and others might push for that group too. It seems a little counter productive to relegate someone out of that group just to make numbers even. I have a feeling it’ll be like that the whole way through the field. Maybe a better way of doing it would be to say a minimum of 3 but a max of 5-6. With 3rd time across the line being the one that counts. But not a precise number in each group.
And also maybe promote people in and out of groups depending on how they think and feel. All trial and error but I think we all have an idea of the person either side of us give or take.
Just want to say two things. Secondly the course we can chop and change from one week to the next. Secondly the teams. I think we have to be a little bit fluid with it and not get too hung up on a precise number for each team. I think bunching people together relatively closely based on how quick they normally go is better. For example around me at the moment out of the people interested I think is bridgy, Lee, and Alan. So that is 4 of us. But alongo, Pete and others might push for that group too. It seems a little counter productive to relegate someone out of that group just to make numbers even. I have a feeling it’ll be like that the whole way through the field. Maybe a better way of doing it would be to say a minimum of 3 but a max of 5-6. With 3rd time across the line being the one that counts. But not a precise number in each group.
And also maybe promote people in and out of groups depending on how they think and feel. All trial and error but I think we all have an idea of the person either side of us give or take.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
Got a link bud?
I think groups was the preferred view of people
Yep.
Good points.
Actually, fewer and maybe unequal teams may make the groupings easier and the race a bit better
I use bulk powders for whey protein but hadn’t noticed them selling electrolyte. I’ll try to remember to check that out for my next order.
I know I'm a maybe as can't commit to a ride time each day due to various things, but I'd prefer it to be the time of the last rider in a team over the line to be the time for that team. That way, it's a proper team and up to the stronger riders in the team to work together to get the weaker rider(s) over the course. If it's a team of say 4, but time of 3rd rider over is the team time, there is no incentive for the fastest 3 to stay with the 4th rider. The result will be that the slowest riders in a group will be dropped early and end up doing a solo ride which surely defeats the object of a team ride.
yeah I’d keep it to a max of 4 groups...when drafting, a rider can save lots of watts so even a rider marginally out of his/her depth should be able to hold the wheels Particularly at the start of the race and it is probably in the groups interest to keep said rider to help share some work.
I dont Mind either way but a solo race would appeal a bit more to me and add to the tactics at play. Still starting in groups ofcourse like hare and hounds.
BurningLegs
Guru
Here you go @<Tommy> and @IrishAl
https://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/electrolyte-powder.html
It has a big “discount” applied at the moment but I’m always a little dubious of that - I wonder how often it’s not offered at a discount?! Maybe IrishAI can comment on that??
https://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/electrolyte-powder.html
It has a big “discount” applied at the moment but I’m always a little dubious of that - I wonder how often it’s not offered at a discount?! Maybe IrishAI can comment on that??
That is my vote as well i.e. Hare and Hounds stylee rather than WTRL.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
I can see a couple of problems with a group start and not being part of a team. If we’re doing it as individuals why not just do a normal handicap with individual start times?
I think the hare and hounds works because there’s so many people in each group. I can see it falling apart rapidly in groups of 4. Would I wait for someone who isn’t as strong as me so takes little turns but might jump me on the line? Not sure I would.
But happy to go with majority and trial and error and all that...
I think the hare and hounds works because there’s so many people in each group. I can see it falling apart rapidly in groups of 4. Would I wait for someone who isn’t as strong as me so takes little turns but might jump me on the line? Not sure I would.
But happy to go with majority and trial and error and all that...
steverob
Guru
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
I was originally more interested in an individual race, but with groups starting together; but if the rule is that the last of the group - no matter how big the group is - is the one to set the time, then I think that's a really good twist. No point in racing off down the road with just your fastest three riders if you've got to get all your team mates across the line.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
It shouldn’t be first across the line I don’t think. But if it’s last across the line it doesn’t allow for mechanicals and internet drop outs etc. Even in a group of four. If you say it’s the3rd across the line. The guy in 4th has to keep going just in case something happens to one of the first 3 guys. If you say it’s the last guy across the line. One mechanical and the whole team is out? Seems harsh no?
