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[BurningLegs]

You also said you degrease the chain once a week but only use chain oil if you think it needs it? What you’re doing there is exposing the chain to rust and other nasties. Using a degreaser once a week is very excessive to me but each to their own!

GT85 doesn't describe itself as a degreaser? What makes you say it is a degreaser?

From their website (https://gt85.co.uk/gt85-original/):

GT85® is a tried and tested multi-purpose lubricant, with multiple uses to help complete tasks around the home and at work. No matter how big or small the project, GT85® gives you everything you need all in one can.

Product Benefits
Loosens rusted parts
Prevents squeaking
PTFE formula helps lubricate
Drives out moisture from electrical systems
Fast acting cleaner
Versatile and easy to use

I only have one bike, and it spends all winter on the turbo. I usually make sure it gets a good clean before it goes on and then abuse it all winter

When the sun comes out and I want to take the bike outside, I usually find that it needs a new chain and cassette (sometimes just chain) so take care of it with a wipe and relube after any long rides through the summer then the cycle starts again...

I could get a longer life out of my chains and cassettes but I just can't be bothered. I suppose I quite like starting the summer with a new chain/cassette so happy to smash it to bits in the winter.

 

[CXRAndy]

I drop my chain in an ultrasound bath with a degreaser. Then once thoroughly clean and washed clean of degreaser. I leave it soaking in an heavy oil till all surfaces are coated. Cycle chains aren't like motorcycle chains where they have rubber seals on the pivots, they are open design, so readily take lubricant into voids

 

[bridgy]

You also said you degrease the chain once a week but only use chain oil if you think it needs it? What you’re doing there is exposing the chain to rust and other nasties. Using a degreaser once a week is very excessive to me but each to their own!

Not trying to tell you or anyone how to suck eggs. In truth most chains stretch before anything else. But the logic behind the manufacturers recommendations is pretty sound from an engineering perspective.

Yeah I did see that and I know what you're saying is right so I just didn't want to contradict you (becasue you're right!) and get into a long winded debate over it!

I don't find that applying light spray of MO94 (which is what I actually use but I forgot the name) and then wiping off strips out all the lube but it allows me to keep the chain clean and rust free without over-loading with thicker lube. I apply the thicker lube as and when I think it's needed. It may not be exactly what's recommended but I am aware of the issues and I keep a close eye on it and this method works for me. Since doing it this way I've had a clean, quiet, smooth running chain which has lasted well and not got itself or other parts of the drivetrain gunked up with dried lube.

I use a proper degreaser in a chain cleaner when I want to fully degrease/clean the chain and I do this less often and always re-lube with proper lubricant after doing this.

Each to their own though - there's a lot of conflicting advice on chain maintenance so whatever works for you I guess. And your advice is good - I'm just doing it how I have found to work well for the indoor bike. With the outdoor bike chain which is exposed to mud and grit etc I clean it after every ride and re-lube and wipe off the excess.

 

[Brusgaard]

Hi,

As you may have noticed, we didn't get any points for just finishing on stage 2 of the Feltet.dk race. I contacted them earlier today, and it has now been corrected. So in the B-cat we are now up to 6 teampoints in total, and C-cat 84. CycleChat C-cat still in no. 2 spot overall!

Hope to see you there tomorrow, and hopefully also some of you B's that have been absent from the first 2 stages. So far 7 CC riders have signed up across the B, C and D cats.

 

[Norry1]

How often you lads wash and clean drivetrain when you have a indoor season?. Yesterday i removed my bike from the trainer and jesus that amount of dry dirt and grease on jockey wheels and chains. Today is time to clean chain and all dirty parts, should do that once in a month at least.

About every six months I reckon.

 

[bridgy]

Hi,

As you may have noticed, we didn't get any points for just finishing on stage 2 of the Feltet.dk race. I contacted them earlier today, and it has now been corrected. So in the B-cat we are now up to 6 teampoints in total, and C-cat 84. CycleChat C-cat still in no. 2 spot overall!

Hope to see you there tomorrow, and hopefully also some of you B's that have been absent from the first 2 stages. So far 7 CC riders have signed up across the B, C and D cats.

I might skip tomorrows race - legs really ache from Sunday and I have another event (just cycling this time) next Sunday so i might just do some easy rides this week to recover and prepare for Sunday

 

[Brusgaard]

I might skip tomorrows race - legs really ache from Sunday and I have another event (just cycling this time) next Sunday so i might just do some easy rides this week to recover and prepare for Sunday

OK... Hope @<Tommy> or @berty bassett is ready to pick up the gauntlet then.

 

[<Tommy>]

GT85 doesn't describe itself as a degreaser? What makes you say it is a degreaser?

From their website (https://gt85.co.uk/gt85-original/):


I only have one bike, and it spends all winter on the turbo. I usually make sure it gets a good clean before it goes on and then abuse it all winter

When the sun comes out and I want to take the bike outside, I usually find that it needs a new chain and cassette (sometimes just chain) so take care of it with a wipe and relube after any long rides through the summer then the cycle starts again...

I could get a longer life out of my chains and cassettes but I just can't be bothered. I suppose I quite like starting the summer with a new chain/cassette so happy to smash it to bits in the winter.

Because it works as a degreaser. Have you tried it?

 

[<Tommy>]

Yeah I did see that and I know what you're saying is right so I just didn't want to contradict you (becasue you're right!) and get into a long winded debate over it!

I don't find that applying light spray of MO94 (which is what I actually use but I forgot the name) and then wiping off strips out all the lube but it allows me to keep the chain clean and rust free without over-loading with thicker lube. I apply the thicker lube as and when I think it's needed. It may not be exactly what's recommended but I am aware of the issues and I keep a close eye on it and this method works for me. Since doing it this way I've had a clean, quiet, smooth running chain which has lasted well and not got itself or other parts of the drivetrain gunked up with dried lube.

I use a proper degreaser in a chain cleaner when I want to fully degrease/clean the chain and I do this less often and always re-lube with proper lubricant after doing this.

Each to their own though - there's a lot of conflicting advice on chain maintenance so whatever works for you I guess. And your advice is good - I'm just doing it how I have found to work well for the indoor bike. With the outdoor bike chain which is exposed to mud and grit etc I clean it after every ride and re-lube and wipe off the excess.

Yes definitely. Whatever works for you. Lots of different ways. Like I say chains normally stretch before anything else too dramatic happens no matter what you do. Anything is normally better than nothing.

 

[<Tommy>]

OK... Hope @<Tommy> or @berty bassett is ready to pick up the gauntlet then.

Im not involved in that league bud

 

[JuhaL]

Because it works as a degreaser. Have you tried it?

I have keep my hands off products like GT85 and any similar products because i don't trust that product can be good for both cleaner and lubricant, that's why i use separate products, one for cleaning and one for lube. It gives me peace of mind.

 

[Brusgaard]

Im not involved in that league bud

You could be...

 

[Brendan Parker]

C boys. Don’t think I ll be there tomorrow night I have a day off and an outside ride planned. Making the most of the dry

 

[CXRAndy]

I'll probably be there

 

[Whorty]

C boys. Don’t think I ll be there tomorrow night I have a day off and an outside ride planned. Making the most of the dry

Damn, it means I'll have to hang on to the grim end this week