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JLaw

Veteran
Ideally bkool make their system more compatible with 3rd party trainers so I can join the races from time to time. From what I can tell you guys don't races against each other too much on zwift and I enjoy racing and the banter on here afterwards.
Yea, I keep hoping more of that will materialize. In the mean time, y'all have to put up with my race reports...

Ran into Bob on the ZA ride today -- I was late joining, so I had to hustle to catch up with the group after which I was content just to tool along and give the legs a relative rest compared to recent racing... Then I saw Bob rolling off the front (as usual), but with 300+ on the ride, it was damn hard to keep track of him.

On the final full lap I rolled past as we came up to the sprint to see if he'd fancy hitting the gas. It didn't look like he was going to go for it, so I didn't wind up. Then, zip, he must have decided to make a run at it and I couldn't catch him. There were simply too many in the sprint over the last 30 that finding Bob was impossible. No idea where he was.
 

LBHIFI

Veteran
Location
Liseleje
Yea, I keep hoping more of that will materialize. In the mean time, y'all have to put up with my race reports...

Ran into Bob on the ZA ride today -- I was late joining, so I had to hustle to catch up with the group after which I was content just to tool along and give the legs a relative rest compared to recent racing... Then I saw Bob rolling off the front (as usual), but with 300+ on the ride, it was damn hard to keep track of him.

On the final full lap I rolled past as we came up to the sprint to see if he'd fancy hitting the gas. It didn't look like he was going to go for it, so I didn't wind up. Then, zip, he must have decided to make a run at it and I couldn't catch him. There were simply too many in the sprint over the last 30 that finding Bob was impossible. No idea where he was.
I was there too.The plan was to take it easy today and do one of the tough workouts tomorrow. But idiot me moved the laptop and forgot to plug in the power :cursing:. Had get off the bike and find an extension cord. It took forever at max (rpm) to catch the peleton. I was in the heaviest gear doing well over 120 rpm, but only barely reaching 300 watt. I think there was some kind of auto erg preventing me from really pushing high power.
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Yea, I keep hoping more of that will materialize. In the mean time, y'all have to put up with my race reports...

Ran into Bob on the ZA ride today -- I was late joining, so I had to hustle to catch up with the group after which I was content just to tool along and give the legs a relative rest compared to recent racing... Then I saw Bob rolling off the front (as usual), but with 300+ on the ride, it was damn hard to keep track of him.

On the final full lap I rolled past as we came up to the sprint to see if he'd fancy hitting the gas. It didn't look like he was going to go for it, so I didn't wind up. Then, zip, he must have decided to make a run at it and I couldn't catch him. There were simply too many in the sprint over the last 30 that finding Bob was impossible. No idea where he was.

I thought I was leading you out on the sprints! In fact your new pb went across the screen which is a great new touch for riders you follow!

TT there will be more racing for me but I am trying to train at the moment and then November onwards will race 3x per week.
 

JLaw

Veteran
I thought I was leading you out on the sprints! In fact your new pb went across the screen which is a great new touch for riders you follow!

TT there will be more racing for me but I am trying to train at the moment and then November onwards will race 3x per week.
When I saw you I looked around the room to try and find my tablet so I could drop you a suggestion that we hit the sprints together.

I've never chatted while riding before, but at the pace we were going I thought I could pull it off.. But the tablet was nowhere to be seen... Typing on the laptop while riding would be an exercise in futility.

I hit the final 30 second sprint relatively hard, but knowing I had to hold it for 30 seconds did hold me back a little. The earlier one was just 5 seconds@837, so nothing spectacular there -- another 100W and I might take notice.

I may have the opportunity to do another ZA social tonight -- given my schedule for the remainder of the ZA timeframe I'm either going to have to double-up on these social rides or skip some racing. I'd rather do the former.
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Logged in to Zwift.com this morning to see what Academy rides I need to do, but the Academy progress is gone.
Is it just me?
Yes, seems to have gone for now.
I also view mine in Today's Plan. Also you can go into myzwift and click on ZA at bottom and then search your name.

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Others have noticed and trying to find out why

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They are aware and sorting
 
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bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
75km base builder this morning in 2h 2m and 208w average. Really struggled and fell off lead group twice and riders dropped back to pace me back and then group slowed to let me recover. Now, you don't get that in bkool because the community for training rides is just not there. I suppose though the problem for riders is finding the right group for them.
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
75km base builder this morning in 2h 2m and 208w average. Really struggled and fell off lead group twice and riders dropped back to pace me back and then group slowed to let me recover. Now, you don't get that in bkool because the community for training rides is just not there. I suppose though the problem for riders is finding the right group for them.

The bkool vs zwift debate is endless, as we've managed to prove over the last year or so! :tongue:

We did do some base building rides on bkool last Christmas if you remember but obviously things like that lend themselves much better to a bigger community. Bkool will surely disappear over the next few years. It's doesn't seem to ever really get mentioned in in discussions about trainer platforms. And we all know they've only got themselves to blame.
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
The bkool vs zwift debate is endless, as we've managed to prove over the last year or so! :tongue:

We did do some base building rides on bkool last Christmas if you remember but obviously things like that lend themselves much better to a bigger community. Bkool will surely disappear over the next few years. It's doesn't seem to ever really get mentioned in in discussions about trainer platforms. And we all know they've only got themselves to blame.

We did but I had to watch you pull away cos you on a pro! The ditching beacon pro too^_^

There is no apparent appetite or community or whatever for chain gang rides or training or anything really on bkool, no support for women's rides, nothing. I just don't get it. It's all about racing and the less said about the accuracy of that the better!
All my life I have championed and supported the underdog. I could not do my job if I didn't. Bkool should be a natural fit for me against the might of Zwift but whatever Zwift faults- and there are many not least cartoonish interface and courses that seems to upset so many-I cannot support mediocrity of vision and support.

Whatever happened to voice chat? On discord today and was able to tell people I was off back and not to wait and they said no, hang on etc and then sweeps sent to pull me back using the ingame text message facility. Sorry for repetition but just making point about where Zwift is going and group workouts are imminent.
 

LBHIFI

Veteran
Location
Liseleje
Bob, about last evenings social ride - were riders forced to use ERG or is there some way to enable/disable it during the ride?
The fact that you were able to do a proper sprint tells me that you didn't have ERG enabled. Hope it's not the Bkool Pro...I already own 4 turbos now and don't fancy getting yet another one.
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
We did but I had to watch you pull away cos you on a pro! The ditching beacon pro too^_^

There is no apparent appetite or community or whatever for chain gang rides or training or anything really on bkool, no support for women's rides, nothing. I just don't get it. It's all about racing and the less said about the accuracy of that the better!
All my life I have championed and supported the underdog. I could not do my job if I didn't. Bkool should be a natural fit for me against the might of Zwift but whatever Zwift faults- and there are many not least cartoonish interface and courses that seems to upset so many-I cannot support mediocrity of vision and support.

Whatever happened to voice chat? On discord today and was able to tell people I was off back and not to wait and they said no, hang on etc and then sweeps sent to pull me back using the ingame text message facility. Sorry for repetition but just making point about where Zwift is going and group workouts are imminent.

To be fair discord works fine on bkool too.
I might be wrong but aren't all the social rides organised by individuals and not zwift personally? You could just as easily organise the same event on bkool if you had the same number of interested individuals.
Bkool also try to organise mass individual leagues too.
The problem with bkool is in the execution. The systems failing badly as we know. So no one is motivated to either join in the numbers they do on zwift or organise events in general.
But yeah.... I'm not picking. I think we both reach the same conclusion that we hope zwift ticks all the boxes bkool fails to! :smile:
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
I think the default is erg is on for workouts only unless you disable it- which I usually do. You see the option on screen but that option is not available for a normal ride.
For normal non workout rides and this includes the socials erg isn't an issue. On a smart trainer resistance will change with gradient and power with rider input as it did on yesterday's ride.
 
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