Zwift Chat

[bobinski]

Will be doing a 20 mins warm up today, then the 30 odd minute race but if not feeling right I'll just cruise. Tomorrow, depending how I feel, will likely be rest day, before racing again Thursday. Saying that though, there is a 10 mile TT tomorrow afternoon that is very tempting

It's one of the benefits of being a youngster, our recovery times are less

Desperate to get this weight off this year, and before I end up gong back to work full time; once I'm full time again I'll struggle to ride as much so getting the miles in now

It’s quite a feat to eat to train, lose weight and gain power. If you get the balance wrong then it’s a long way back. Your body is so fatigued that there’s no quick fix. I would urge some caution , irrespective of your (relative ) youth. Training plan, even Strava give you the opportunity to monitor stress while training and take into account weight loss so you might want to look at that.

 

[Whorty]

Well done tonight @mjd1988 Couldn't push hard enough early on so found a mixed group of B, C and D riders and trundled with them. Had a chain slip on the final climb to the finish line which lost me 8 places on the road (only 2 places in ZP though). Even though you came 5th, only 1 of the riders was within the C w/kg limits ..... I think there is a moral victory there mate

 

[mjd1988]

Guy who came third in the "C" race today - 3.9W/Kg, 4Kg/W for 20mins. 177W for the race giving a weight of 45kg of i've done my sums right.

Raced in January at 2.7W/Kg average watts of 214 giving a weight of 80kg. 35kg gone in a couple of months - puts your weight loss to shame @Whorty

 

[Whorty]

It’s quite a feat to eat to train, lose weight and gain power. If you get the balance wrong then it’s a long way back. Your body is so fatigued that there’s no quick fix. I would urge some caution , irrespective of your (relative ) youth. Training plan, even Strava give you the opportunity to monitor stress while training and take into account weight loss so you might want to look at that.

Ideally I'd like to train extra, lose weight and gain power although I'm trying to be realistic and so I'm going for weight loss and extra training. I don't feel too bad. Legs a bit tired in tonight's race, but then I'm not surprised as I did a big climb yesterday. May totally rest tomorrow or do a recovery spin ... not sure yet. Big ride on Thursday and I'd love to keep you company again so I'll most likely rest tomorrow

On rest days I eat less. On riding days I eat normally.

 

[Whorty]

Guy who came third in the "C" race today - 3.9W/Kg, 4Kg/W for 20mins. 177W for the race giving a weight of 45kg of i've done my sums right.

Raced in January at 2.7W/Kg average watts of 214 giving a weight of 80kg. 35kg gone in a couple of months - puts your weight loss to shame @Whorty

Edit : seems it's a junior rider who may have been using an adult's account, hence the weight drop. Also, even though he exceeds w/kg for C cat, because his ave watts are not over 200 he stays in C cat. Thanks to Dave Reeson for explanation

 

[mjd1988]

Well done tonight @mjd1988 Couldn't push hard enough early on so found a mixed group of B, C and D riders and trundled with them. Had a chain slip on the final climb to the finish line which lost me 8 places on the road (only 2 places in ZP though). Even though you came 5th, only 1 of the riders was within the C w/kg limits ..... I think there is a moral victory there mate

Cheers, think fresher legs made any difference, i'm sure normal service will be resumed on thursday with you a min or two ahead!

 

[Marino.g]

First race for 6 weeks while I’ve been on my TrainerRoad workout plan.
Happy with the results.

 

[Norry1]

It’s quite a feat to eat to train, lose weight and gain power. If you get the balance wrong then it’s a long way back. Your body is so fatigued that there’s no quick fix. I would urge some caution , irrespective of your (relative ) youth. Training plan, even Strava give you the opportunity to monitor stress while training and take into account weight loss so you might want to look at that.

I struggle with the same compulsion to train hard most days. I have managed to ensure I do some endurance rides lately, and being away keeps me off the bike a bit. I did plan to run tonight but something told me to take a complete day off.

Regarding food, I'm trying to do a calorie deficit 3 days a week and eat/drink normally the other 4.

 

[Whorty]

Cheers, think fresher legs made any difference, i'm sure normal service will be resumed on thursday with you a min or two ahead!

Maybe, maybe not ...... I'll have to rest tomorrow to give myself any chance

 

[Freelanderuk]

I am back to 1500 calories a day to shift my last 5kg

 

[bobinski]

I struggle with the same compulsion to train hard most days. I have managed to ensure I do some endurance rides lately, and being away keeps me off the bike a bit. I did plan to run tonight but something told me to take a complete day off.

Regarding food, I'm trying to do a calorie deficit 3 days a week and eat/drink normally the other 4.

I am definitely no expert but all the indicators are that mixing up hard rides,recovery rides (z1/2) and also actual rest is the right way to go with an emphasis on the right food for energy and then recovery. Still, difficult not to carry on what you are doing if it’s working as it is for both you and Carl.

 

[mjd1988]

Speaking of weight doping has everyone heard this ;

 

[theboxers]

The quick spindown on the app takes no time but I often am so late to a race that I do it less often than I should

Ideally it needs to be done on a warmed up kickr. 10-15 minutes to loosen everything up and then do the spin down.

 

[kipster]

I am definitely no expert but all the indicators are that mixing up hard rides,recovery rides (z1/2) and also actual rest is the right way to go with an emphasis on the right food for energy and then recovery. Still, difficult not to carry on what you are doing if it’s working as it is for both you and Carl.

Bit it all depends on the type of riding, the goals and the training stress.

I tend to be really bad at structure and recovery. During the winter I ride 3 or 4 days a week, which includes a low intensity, a high intensity, an endurance, and a social ride (this is the optional one). Sometimes the endurance is on the turbo but I try and ride outside whenever I can on the weekend. During the summer it's a hard solo on Tuesday, a hard group ride on Thursday and a hard endurance ride on Saturday (up to 80miles), and a recovery social on Sunday.

All other days no riding. I eat when I'm hungry and pay no attention to calories. I don't carb load or do much in the way of carbs generally and don't get enough protein in after a ride
As I said I do it all wrong but it hasn't really caused me a problem.

One thing I need to fix is my fluid intake, I'm currently at under 750ml for 60 mile rides.

 

[theboxers]

I am back to 1500 calories a day to shift my last 5kg

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