jonny jeez
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I shall remember that then.
Why don't you post on Society, Culture & Politics?
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Cheddar George
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I look in occasionally to admire the skilled debating and arguing, it reminds me of watching a bucket of crabs.
swansonj
Guru
Do you have the same threshold for intervention in SCP as the rest of the forum? I kind of assumed there was a bit of a feeling of "just let them all get on with it", especially with it not being visible to newcomers/casual browsers. Your 95% figure does shock me.
welsh dragon
Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
You'd be sorely missed. I think we know or have a good idea of the problems that mods face. Thankfully the vast majority here are grateful to all of you.you all give a lot of your time and energy on this site, and for that you recieve a payment of wait for it NOTHING. Without you and the other mods, I have no doubt the site would come to a crashing stop, as people would leave in large waves to get away from the vitriolic words of some. All the mods are much needed and you have a thankless and sometimes unwinable task. All of you deserve a big thank you
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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The largely feigned intelligence and constant 1upmanship is all a bit monotonous
SatNavSaysStraightOn
Changed hemispheres!
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I'm not sure I understand you, but I tend to be more lenient in SC&P and let them get on with it, than I do in the rest of the site, if that is what you mean.
But when it comes to the amount of time we spend dealing with SC&P issues, it is around that at a rough guestimate. Some of it also strays over into other areas of the forum as well. The rest of the issues we deal with a simply deciding if a new starter is genuine or not, approving their first x many posts, taking CAPS off titles and the occasional rehoming of threads posted in the wrong area. They take up very little time at all. If I look at the mods queue right now, (11 items waiting for approval or otherwise) I have just cleared out (that means approved) 8 of those inside 2 minutes..
plus ca change
The forum changes when you become a moderator. It's equivalent of turning an enjoyable hobby into a full time slightly stressful job and those that do it, do it, I assume, like I did, because we want to give back to a forum which has given so much to us in the first place and you're never right when you're a moderator, you just need a thick skin and a light hand but there's a limit for how long you can do it sometimes and doing it gives some appreciation for just how much Shaun puts into this place and I'm grateful he does and doesn't just walk away from some of the shoot that happens and believe me, you might not quite believe some of what goes on behind the scenes even on a mild cycling forum.
As a user I quite like scp though, sometimes. I go in when I'm in the mood and read more than I write.
It would be interesting to know what the nature of the complaints (reports?) is. Like @swansonj the impression I get is that moderators pay little attention to the content until their services are reluctantly drawn to it, and then they either knock a few heads together in the manner of a slightly exasperated schoolteacher who has no idea how it all started, or give stuff a cursory scan and delete selected posts that appear to them to be out of order in some way, with no very coherent rationale. It goes without saying that these methods will tend to indulge the disingenuous, and the most gobsmacking thing is that if the mods spend so much time dealing with SC&P, why on earth haven't they offed the ludicrously obvious troll?
swansonj
Guru
Thanks - that was pretty much what I meant. I always assumed that if, on another board, someone complains "so and so was rude to me", you would read the thread in detail, make a fair assessment, and, in the spirit of maintaining a fun and friendly forum, intervene if so and so had indeed been rude. Whereas on SCP you might be more inclined just to think "well what do you expect..."
swee'pea99
Legendary Member
Wow. 95%. Sets me at least wondering (doubtless a reflection of the depths of my ignorance) whether there might not be a case for making SC&P a moderator-free zone, or at least giving it its own unique moderator rules:
1) An explicit warning at the top of the page that 'this is a moderator-free zone'
2) A rider that 'You enter this zone at your own peril'
3) A basic rule that says anything will be deleted if it appears to raise legal issues; otherwise everything is fair game
4) No appeals, no explanations, & any appeals for any such will be ignored
5) If you don't like the rules, don't play the game
Could that be done? The current situation does sound like a staggering waste of volunteer resources and goodwill.
1) An explicit warning at the top of the page that 'this is a moderator-free zone'
2) A rider that 'You enter this zone at your own peril'
3) A basic rule that says anything will be deleted if it appears to raise legal issues; otherwise everything is fair game
4) No appeals, no explanations, & any appeals for any such will be ignored
5) If you don't like the rules, don't play the game
Could that be done? The current situation does sound like a staggering waste of volunteer resources and goodwill.
SatNavSaysStraightOn
Changed hemispheres!
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It is like I said. I don't go into SC&P voluntarily, neither do most of the moderators. It is not something I like to do and I don't like the content or the constant bickering/rudeness that is in there. I don't need to go there and I don't have to.
Mods do not read each and every post on the site and we rely on being alerted to an issue, though we do sometimes come across issues in our normal CC 'mode' and deal with them as needed.
Personally when I deal with something that has been highlighted as a problem, I kid not when I say I clear an hour or so of my time, sit down with a hot drink and something to eat and sit and read the entire thread before dealing with it. I will lock the thread whilst I am reading it if it is a particularly volatile thread, and then I clean it up in accordance with the site T&C's, something a lot of members posting in SC&P could do with reading. I can not comment on how other Mods deal with the problem.
I am now off to go and cycle in the rain for 2-3 hours, so there won't be anymore replies.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
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I would imagine that being a moderator is a thankless job, so before we can fully appreciate the task it may be better to be one for a while.
twentysix by twentyfive
Clinging on tightly
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Yikes
I posted my response to the thread title quite early on last evening. I come back this morning and there are 6 pages. Should this thread be in SC&P?
I understand what you are saying, and I accept that moderators generally act in good faith. What I am saying is that those who only know the board insofar as they are alerted to it by complaints will inevitably have a particular view of it, and that view is not necessarily especially nuanced or comprehensive.
John the Monkey
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The fascination it seems to exert is interesting.
No one is popping up to say "Why Don't You Post in Know How?" or "Why Aren't Your Musings on the Grapefruitiness of Hops in the Beer Thread?"
No one is popping up to say "Why Don't You Post in Know How?" or "Why Aren't Your Musings on the Grapefruitiness of Hops in the Beer Thread?"
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