Where have all the anti-vaxxers gone?

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classic33

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When they get covid, most of them stop demanding to know what's in all the medications that are saving their lives.

Maybe Quebec has the right idea with a higher health tax for the unvaccinated?
I'm not entirely certain of the complete make up of the current anti-epilepsy medication, that's "keeping me alive" at present.
 
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FishFright

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Your going to need a JCB with the hole your digging :whistle:

As Bamford has been allowing his premises to be used as vaccination centres free of charge he may have to put up with an imported digger.
 

Johnno260

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When they get covid, most of them stop demanding to know what's in all the medications that are saving their lives.

Maybe Quebec has the right idea with a higher health tax for the unvaccinated?

Also bear in mind they also claim they don’t want to line big pharmas pockets with the vaccine, now I know for certain some of the drugs used in critical care have huge cost, and looking at some of the numbers what vaccination status is mostly clogging ICU beds.
 
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Also bear in mind they also claim they don’t want to line big pharmas pockets with the vaccine, now I know for certain some of the drugs used in critical care have huge cost, and looking at some of the numbers what vaccination status is mostly clogging ICU beds.
Yes, indeed; they should be clamouring for the vaccine at (a few £ per shot) x 3 instead of risking the expense of HDU or ICU at (several £K daily + drugs, in the pocket of both big pharma & medical technology) x duration of stay. Even if their magic tinfoil hats protect them from that, you don't need a particularly severe infection to get long covid ... and the present level of knowledge about Omicron seems to be that it is no ticket of freedom from long covid.

However, logic cannot be described as the strongpoint of the anti-vaxx crowd; it will be interesting to see what effect Quebec's increased tax charge has, and its fallout.

The problem is that it's a slippery slope and could well be seen - and rightly condemned - as the first step on the road to laying the blame directly on people for literally thousands of conditions and diseases which are, or might be, attributable in some way to an individual lifestyle choice. The idea of making life very inconvenient if unvaccinated, is, I think, a much better one.
 
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Here is an observation that I noticed in the past that's appearing in spadeful now. Anti Vaxxers claiming to have taken the vaccination and even describing what type and what doses but casting doubts repeatedly on data and research. Even boldly claiming they are for vaccination.

Maybe hoping for an audience. One recently joined this thread.

Btw our good doctor Steve James is now shape shifting after BBC fact checked on his claims and called it out. And his Medical colleagues questioned his ethics. The man is now pro-vaccine but claims questionable science.
https://www.bbc.com/news/59929638
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Milzy

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Is there any actually reasoning behind that?

Those people are absolutely right. It disgusts me that those elite athletes have been taken in by the silly scare stories. There is even less reason for them to not get vaccinated than there is for the rest of us. Many of them are involved in sports where social distancing is simply impossible. It is completely irresponsible for them to continue playing those sports without getting vaccinated.
They won’t end up in hospital though & there’s at least two other drugs available to clear up Covid in its early stages. Those drugs are very cheap to make.
 

Milzy

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Furthermore an elite athlete can brush off Covid like a child so the they may as well rely on their antibodies as the vaccine is more likely to be a higher risk than the disease.
 

Alex321

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Furthermore an elite athlete can brush off Covid like a child so the they may as well rely on their antibodies as the vaccine is more likely to be a higher risk than the disease.
There are NO people without pre-existing conditions making the vaccines inadvisable whose risk from taking the vaccine is anywhere near as high as the risk from not taking it.

The risk of death from taking the vaccines is one in tens of millions. Even the risk of serious negative side effects is WAY less than the risk of death from the disease, and hundreds of times less likely than having long term effects from the disease.
 

Johnno260

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Furthermore an elite athlete can brush off Covid like a child so the they may as well rely on their antibodies as the vaccine is more likely to be a higher risk than the disease.
Ignoring cases like the MMA and kickboxing world champ who died to it.

Also ignoring the fact it can cause long term cardiovascular damage, with that comprised career is over.
 
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Johnno260

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it’s made up bollocks that’s why !!

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/bay...ne-after-suffering-coronavirus-related-injury

Footballers might polarise peoples opinion but the point is proven in the link. It’s matters not a jot whom you are.

Like the fact with footballers suffering from cardiac events, the reports anti vaxers use don’t include the status of the player with regard to prior infection, and that infection has a much higher risk of adverse cardiac issues.
 
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