DCBassman
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- The lumpy far South West
Serious debate also includes understanding when your point of view has been radically dismembered, and why. Entrenched position is not debate.
Where have all the anti-vaxxers gone?
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
You shouldn't knock it before you try it! When were you going to get involved in a serious debate?
New scam spotted: some anti-vaxxer delivered a ream of spam to Hammersmith Police Station and has now an image has started spreading that there is an investigation by "Hammersmith CID" into "Misconduct in a Public Office" over the vaccines, with a case number. There isn't. See https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/1191d0b5
On the same site, there is also a factcheck of one way that people have been taking the micturate out of anti-vaxxers: https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/d8c6e47e
First you claimed that you took the vaccine and are pro vaccine. Then you put out a supposedly profound statement about listening to those one disagrees with.
Followed by links to research that won't pass basic muster and all slanted against the vaccine. Then comments about secrecy, research not completed, data not clear, etc.
And you are looking for serious debate?
Johnno260
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- East Sussex
You got serious debate with people actually taking the time to check what you posted. If you think the points raised are not valid you can counter them, that's what debate is.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
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- Lancaster... the little city.
I know I've not been the best anti-vaxxer... but with Fat Lars gone... does that mean there's only two of us left? 
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
Hope soI know I've not been the best anti-vaxxer... but with Fat Lars gone... does that mean there's only two of us left?
Johnno260
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- East Sussex
So people refute your claims with sound evidence, and your response is "this isn't a serious debate, bye" proves you just wanted people to confirm a bias.
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
Utterly meaningless.
Anecdotal evidence of people who have had things happen to them fairly soon after vaccination means nothing at all. I'm sure you could find just as many regarding people who have been killed in road accidents within 30 days of vaccination. That would mean just as much.
What does mean something is where studies have been carried out showing whether the incidence of such things is any greater among those vaccinated than among a similar cohort normally (or who have not been vaccinated in current times).
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Johnno260
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- East Sussex
Copying and pasting memes and nonsense from Twitter just proves you aren't interested in anything except propagating total nonsense, and lies.
Like I said ignoring the fact cardiovascular damage from the virus is a thing.
Nothing posted thus far from you has lead to anything credible, you do know by spreading this nonsense means you have some responsibility towards preventable deaths right?
Also nice to see the Australians blocked Novax again, they have some sense I see.
Derailing the thread again? I assume at this point you want it locked.
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Johnno260
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No it was a weak claim on your part, all medicines and all drugs have potential side effects and possible reactions.
If the reactions from the vaccines were as wide spread as some people claim then we would have major issues, the fact is they're isolated cases, it's also a fact the vaccines work.
You can be as incredulous as you like but anti vaxers are a dying breed rather literally as well.
Edit: just so you are aware also, all the vaccine adverse reactions, clots myocarditis etc, all of these carry a much higher risk from the actual virus.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ases/coronavirus/heart-problems-after-covid19
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea.../coronavirus/what-does-covid-do-to-your-blood
Those are articles from an actual medical source, not from social media.
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