Tour de France 2013 *spoilers*
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Pedrosanchezo
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You could start a "get Quintana on Strava" campaign in an effort to get him back!
Having contributed precisely 0 points to my FL team. Loser
Has taaraamasalata retired yet? He might as well have for all the good he's done me.
Forget that: I'm not quite sure who I was thinking of there but it isn't Pinot...... Goes off to Google....
At least he had the decency to go backwards in the TT. No one really knows, but it's fair to say that Froome has had a meteoric rise from obscurity since the Vuelta in 2011. Maybe his improvement has been double weighted by a cleaned up peloton and Sky's approach to training. I wonder how long it will take the sport to move out of the shadow of the murky past.
thom
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That is just rude - the race organisers obviously ought to have shown you the merest modicum of respect and neutralised racing on those bits
smutchin
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Not sure who you're thinking of*, but I was referring to the 23-year-old rising star of French cycling Thibaut Pinot...
According to this report, he's going to take the rest day to consider it - "we'll see on Tuesday but it's hardly worth carrying on just to finish in the grupetto every day" - but the rumour on Twitter is that he has definitely abandoned**:
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Pinot-dans-le-doute/385821
*Jerome Pineau, perhaps? He's still in the race, afaik.
**Maybe I should have used the word "abandoned" initially, rather than "retired"
deptfordmarmoset
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I just read in L'Equipe that Brailsford has said he's in favour of sharing all of their riders' data with a suitable organisation (i.e. WADA). ''We'd give all our information - power data, blood values, body weight and full training details. This data would be analysed using the same methods and we would have confidence in these experts. They would be able to say whether we're believable.''*
*back translation - I haven't seen the English version, if there is one. The article refers to him saying this on Monday, I assume that refers to this morning. If it was last week and it's already been mentioned elsewhere, my apologies.
EDIT: it's just been covered in English here
*back translation - I haven't seen the English version, if there is one. The article refers to him saying this on Monday, I assume that refers to this morning. If it was last week and it's already been mentioned elsewhere, my apologies.
EDIT: it's just been covered in English here
Pedrosanchezo
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Exactly, and this is important. If he puts out the same power as Froome over the same distance then Froome stands no chance. Even though Quintana is super light, Froome obviously has a superior watt/kg ratio over 25-30 minutes. Hence the recent claims of Sky working on CP25 (CP=critical power) with Froome.
Example: Quintana might be putting out 350w over an hour which for a pro rider is not exceptional but when put into an hours climb it becomes extraordinary purely due to his weight. If Quintana weighs 55Kg (approx.) then his watt/kg would be, with the 350w assumption, over 6w/kg. In summary he would be hitting the magic numbers just because he is super light, not doping.
All of the above are assumptions to illustrate a viewpoint.
Yah, and I fancy winning the lottery.
If that was the case then his TT wouldn't be so woeful. You're right about the power/weight ratio, though it is somewhat stating the obvious. But the lighter you are, the lower FTP that you can reasonably expect, which is also stating the obvious.
Either way none of this speculation tells us ANYTHING at all about either Quintana or Froome taking PEDs.
smutchin
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http://velorooms.com/the-doping-section/chris-froome/msg59781/#msg59781
People inside the sport were considering Froome a potential GT winner as long ago as 2008.
smutchin
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Hey, I got Kreuziger and Fuglsang mixed up yesterday, so I'm certainly not going to take you to task for that one.
smutchin
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He finished three and a half minutes ahead of Mark Cavendish yesterday.
Cofidis are having a bit of a stinker of a Tour. They seem to have been completely anonymous so far. Navarro in 20th is their highest placed rider, 23m 36s behind Froome. Next best is Molard in 74th, 1h 28m off the pace.
