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T4tomo

Legendary Member
Really good performance by England last night, should have been 3-0 up at HT. inevitably got a bit nervy, after we were badly unpicked for the Italian goal, and then going down to 10 men, but they hung in there. Bellingham is an awesome player .

The ref was bringing out cards for time wasting after about 20 minutes wasn't he? - bonkers.
 
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Cheshire
I also heard the "1961" comment and thought I had misheard.....but no. Hard to believe isn't it.

I was shocked by that stat too, and 1961 was a friendly. We have never beaten them at home in a quali match ... until last night.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I was shocked by that stat too, and 1961 was a friendly. We have never beaten them at home in a quali match ... until last night.

I think you meant in Italy / away

9 wins in total vs Italy (plus 9 draws, 13 defeats)
6 in friendlies incl a bicentennial game in the US),
1 at home qualifying for 1978WC (we lost away to them and finished 2nd in the group of 4 on GD and hence didn't qualify)
1 at Le Tournoi in France
and last night.

8 of the 13 defeats were in non friendly games, i.e. WC or EC tournament or qualifying for one
 

PaulSB

Squire
Just read these two articles regarding reform of the Champions League and World Cup both designed to generate more fixtures and more wealth. I can't help but agree with the journalist. A six week World Cup? I don't think I could sustain any sort of interest for that period, might watch a semi-final if a home nation is involved and perhaps the final. Beyond that would I really care? Would I be engaged? Unlikely.

A Bloated Game?

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nelli-swiss-system?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
 
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AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
At the highest level, the game is utterly knackered. It will be beyond unsustainable soon, perhaps not in my lifetime, but there's just no way it can keep going the way it is.
 

PaulSB

Squire
At the highest level, the game is utterly knackered. It will be beyond unsustainable soon, perhaps not in my lifetime, but there's just no way it can keep going the way it is.

I have to agree. I take the numbers in these articles at face value which show in the WC the first 72 games will eliminate 16 teams. In the revised CL there will be 180 games to eliminate 12, yes twelve, sides.

I really do wonder why anyone feels there was so much fundamentally wrong with 64 >32 >16 >8 >4 >2 >Winner.

Yes, there has to be progress, yes it is about generating revenue but there must come a point when expansion generates decline and not growth.

Today the only time I watch televised football is if Blackburn Rovers are on and for some reason I cant go to the match. The only football related purchase I make today, or have made for possibly a decade, is my season ticket at Ewood. I'm pretty sure if the game offered me something exciting, a bit special, something more than a beauty parade I could be persuaded to sit down with a beer and watch.

But then what does a fan know?

Tennis, for example, persuades me to watch. I'm not a tennis fan but my wife is and she watches many tournaments on TV. I don't watch all by any means but matches can and do grab my attention not least because I know the result matters. In far too many football matches the result is largely irrelevant or a foregone conclusion.
 
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postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
Wonderful I am watching a football match on telly.One team in yellow one team in white and blue.It seems it's an International walking football competition.It's really good the front players of the blue and white team fall over a blade of grass and a bloke in black whistles and they get the ball back.One bloke has a pair of slippers on that say all-time goalscorer the tv camera had a close up of them. not sure if I will see the end it's nearly tea time.The audience has just gone mad tall bloke has put the ball into the net off his leg.The joke is now on me they have scored two and the game has got warmed up.
 
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Slick

Guru
At the highest level, the game is utterly knackered. It will be beyond unsustainable soon, perhaps not in my lifetime, but there's just no way it can keep going the way it is.

To be fair, I have been saying that for a long time and they just seem to keep coming up with other ways from separating a fool from their cash be it extortionate ticket prices or silly money for sky.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
To be fair, I have been saying that for a long time and they just seem to keep coming up with other ways from separating a fool from their cash be it extortionate ticket prices or silly money for sky.

Aye, I have too. I'm too young to be this cynical.
 
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