The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

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newfhouse

Resolutely on topic
the cause against the totally unfair mystical "oppression" that's causing people to wear helmets apparently against their will....

Wouldnt have believed it if I hadnt read it on this very thread...
Care to point me at the post(s) you have in mind?
 

GrumpyGregry

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It could prove the helmet took the brunt of the impact at the time of the incident, but only the owner of the helmet can verify that.
You don't understand what catastrophic failure mode is do you? Bluntly the equivalent of the helmet failing to provide protection because it was stressed outside of its design envelope. It failed because the forces were too great, meaning the riders skull saved him not his helmet.
 

GrumpyGregry

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some of this lot witnessed a fellow cc'er falling on his head, he even posted the helmet damage - they still refused to acknowledge the helmet had any noticeable effect on his well being..or not...it was very awkward for them...
Some of this lot witnessed a fellow cc'er falling on his head. The consultant treating him said "good job you WEREN'T wearing a helmet or you may have broken your neck."
 

GrumpyGregry

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Ask the Danes why so few of them wear pointless bits of plastic on their heads. When they cycle so much more than we do. Oh wait, they might not be qualified to hold an opinion unless they are blah, blah, blah...
 
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doog

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Ask the Danes why so few of them wear pointless bits of plastic on their heads. When they cycle do much more than we do. Oh wait, they might not be qualified to hold an opinion unless they are blah, blah, blah...

I dont doubt the Danes in Copenhagen on their super safe cycle paths chose not to wear a helmet whilst popping down the shops and to work....the same in Amsterdam and Rotterdam. However get off these safe non traffic routes and its a different story...

You should try it....the message is that people have a choice...referring to them as nobbers indicates you aren't giving them the benefit of that choice...
 

doog

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There's a constant queue of people, some with unwarranted influence, calling for helmet compulsion. Some are cyclists themselves ffs. It hasn't happened here but it is a risk that shouldn't be ignored.

A risk ? the assumption that anyone who offers an alternative view to the anti helmet posters (with all due respect to them) are pro compulsion totally distorts these threads...
 

GrumpyGregry

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I dont doubt the Danes in Copenhagen on their super safe cycle paths chose not to wear a helmet whilst popping down the shops and to work....the same in Amsterdam and Rotterdam. However get off these safe non traffic routes and its a different story...

You should try it....the message is that people have a choice...referring to them as nobbers indicates you aren't giving them the benefit of that choice...
Clearly written from a position of ignorance. Most roads in cph do not have separated provision for cyclists. The roads here are not by any means super-safe for cyclists. Car v bike conflict, accident, and injury is a daily occurrence and deaths happen all to often. Sorry to burst your bubble.

People have a choice. Hardly anyone here choose to wear a helmet? Why is that? If they choose to wear one I can choose to ridicule them for it. That is what choice is about.
 

Justinslow

Lovely jubbly
Location
Suffolk
Not this again. Physics is universal as far as we know.

Does the law of gravity work differently in Copenhagen vs Berwick-on-Tweed.

No but it is a different place with different road conditions, different cultures, how can you compare riding there or Amsterdam with riding in congested GB?
By alienating a certain type of cyclist ie "team/club riders" you make yourself sound rather foolish.
 
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