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figbat said:
Just what I was thinking! Weaving belongs in junior formulae - Lance has been in F1 long enough to know better. Or apparently not.
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He has sparks of being a very able driver, but then goes & spoils it, I wonder if it's just lack of maturity, or frustration of not getting his own way, or not having a race winning car. That move on Latifi was almost childish (and dangerous)
 
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Anyone else wondering given the Ferrari performance whether

a) Ferrari have done an outstanding job in developing a car which is far better than the rest of the field
or
b) Ferrari have found a semi-legal short cut which other teams haven't exploited...

I mean - I'm hoping for Charles sake that it really is (a) but I have a nagging suspicion at the back of my mind that (b) might be a possibility based on recent history...

In the meantime I am very much enjoying Red Bull appearing to experience Karma...
 
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icowden said:
Anyone else wondering given the Ferrari performance whether

a) Ferrari have done an outstanding job in developing a car which is far better than the rest of the field
or
b) Ferrari have found a semi-legal short cut which other teams haven't exploited...

I mean - I'm hoping for Charles sake that it really is (a) but I have a nagging suspicion at the back of my mind that (b) might be a possibility based on recent history...

In the meantime I am very much enjoying Red Bull appearing to experience Karma...
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It appears that Mercedes haven't adapted to the E10 as well as Ferrari / Honda , hard to tell with Renault as the team is a bit meh still.
 
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icowden said:
Anyone else wondering given the Ferrari performance whether

a) Ferrari have done an outstanding job in developing a car which is far better than the rest of the field
or
b) Ferrari have found a semi-legal short cut which other teams haven't exploited...

I mean - I'm hoping for Charles sake that it really is (a) but I have a nagging suspicion at the back of my mind that (b) might be a possibility based on recent history...

In the meantime I am very much enjoying Red Bull appearing to experience Karma...
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And not-quite-so-recent history...

The thing is, Ferrari being successful gets a lot of bums-on-seats, which, of course, is a financial asset. And to quote Sam Bird, who was doing the 5 Live radio commentary for the first two races, "it's not just a car, it's a religion."

Also, regarding fuel - you are allowed 1% impurities in fuel samples. In a 100kg tank of fuel, that's 1kg of "stuff" that's legit. I've noticed bog standard E10 fuel makes my own road car more thirsty, but if you're allowed (another grey area in the rules) to dump a kilo of additives in to improve efficiency / oopmh (not terribly technical terms, yes, I know LOL) then yes, there's definite room for chicanery. Especially that we no longer get the info on fuel efficiency that used to be a standard on the TV graphics. That used to be such a BIG thing until Ferrari started pissing around with their engine and got done for it, and then it oh-so-conveniently disappeared from the public domain. So yeah, there's a definite stink around it somewhere...

TBH, I get more laughs out of Ferrari making a sow's ear out of a silk purse... :tongue: They have got the capability to show brilliance and get everyone rowing in the same direction, but then politics and egos and Italian headless chickenry kind of get in the way.

As for Red Bull. Yep. Though I think, given that Alpha Tauri have also been having problems, they have tried to push the envelope too far somewhere on the technical front to get that extra performance. Adrian Newey is an immensely talented engineer, but he is very much in the mould of Colin Chapman. The latter who famously said about racing car components that "if it doesn't break, then it's not light enough." So yes, Karma seems to have bitten them in the bum somewhat. Although it remains to be seen whether it's a problem that can be solved, or whether it's down to a fundamental error in the design / packaging of the car.

If it's the latter, and the Red Bull proves to be fragile all season (that's going to be fun when penalties start kicking in for extra components), then I think I'd take Mercedes' handling issues every time. The car might not be as fast as it could be, but at least it's not breaking down...
 
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I really do hope for A but I have a nagging doubt it's B
 
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Illaveago said:
From what I have been seeing on the net It seems as though the boss of Red Bull is getting a bit fed up with Vestappen's attitude !
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He should not have employed a prima donna then should he, they have made him what he is today, they told him at 16 they would build the whole team around him to make him world champion, how do they expect him to behave. They did what they said they would do (whether he should have won last year is open to debate) & then they pulled rug out from under him.
 
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Phaeton said:
He should not have employed a prima donna then should he, they have made him what he is today, they told him at 16 they would build the whole team around him to make him world champion, how do they expect him to behave. They did what they said they would do (whether he should have won last year is open to debate) & then they pulled rug out from under him.
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Exactly this - I fear Max doesn't have any moderating influences around him.
 
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