I seed Ford have just released the all new Capri.

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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
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Renault are doing something similar with their latest releases by bringing back the 4 and 5 model numbers. This time the 4 is bigger than the 5 and apparentl a small SUV type thing. By all accounts the new 5 isn't bad, but they blow it by re-using the 'Turbo' name on the performance version. See the screenshot from their web site below - being elecric the car has neither a supercharger OR turbo
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Yeah, seems the cynical marketing there still there with the use of the word "Turbo" as you suggest; although at least (judglng by that pic) they've done a decent job of emulating the original.

All that said these warped, opportunistic, black-mirror-esque perversions of earlier vehicles just makes me want one of the originals over modern tat even more.
 
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figbat

Slippery scientist
The Consul Capri was perhaps rhe genesis of the name, but rhe subsequently Capri, it's mechanical original and intended market were all very different.

Which is exactly the case with the new EV, no?
 
Brother in law used to race in formula Ford, mainly Fiesta Escorts and Sierras, of varying years and models. There was one guy raced a Capri, lost every race, not that good on the straights, had to break very early before each corner and then spent as long getting going again. Always guessed he was an 'enthusiast' living his dream...

More likely to be Fast Fords or Uniroyal Production Saloons or something of that ilk. Formula Ford is something quite, quite different. (Silverstone, March 23rd 1986, Esso British FF1600), photo Rich Craner.

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johnnyb47

Guru
Location
Wales
I had my Ford Capri 1.6 LS for over ten years.
Bright red with a pair of spot lights and yellow fog lights on the front.
It looked the part,but it wouldn't pull the skin off a the bowl off rice pudding.
I was a member of the "Capri club" and took it to the odd show with them.
The pinto engine was built proof and easy to work on on.
Changing the cam belt was laughable easy,and even if it were to snap it wouldn't cause any damage to the valves as it was a non interference engine.
Mine had the infamous VV carb which was not the best but a twin choke webber that I fitted soon sorted that out.
The 2.8 injection sounded amazing but the rear wheels would tramp badly if you floored it from stand still.
The sweet spot engine was the 2 litre pinto.
It had decent power and economy.
With rampant rust getting hold of it I eventually sold it on.
I've still got a few parts of it in the shed 35 years later
 
Car prices have gone crazy in recent years. A mini was £600 in 1970 and almost all parts were made in the UK, inflation adjusted that is about £8k but you can't get a car for £8k new now and that is despite a huge amount of parts in cars now coming from Asia especially electronics. Of course cars have got a lot more complicated with many more safety features and taxation on cars has become greater. Cars are the most damaging of imports due to their high cost. The complexity of cars has also led to extreme repair costs and many cars being uneconomic to repair. Their average size has increased too. In just about everyway cars have become far more damaging to the environment and the economy. The only positive I guess is fewer people can afford to have a car nowadays. I notice in London over 40% of homes now no longer have a car. However as there are up to 1/2 million untaxed and uninsured cars on the road estimated you wonder how any of these figures can be accurate.
 
The Mini is probably not the best example to use here @bonzobanana as it was always made at a loss.

IIRC, Ford - their Anglia was the direct competitor to the Mini back then - bought one, took it apart, did a costing and came to the conclusion that BMC / British Leyland were off their trolley.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
The Mini was made at a loss, but indirectly turned a profit overall though servicing and repairs, of which they needed a lot.

Did you know the mk1 Cortina missed it original intended launch date while the steering wheel was redesigned several times to bring it under budget?
 

tyred

Legendary Member
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Ireland
The Mini is probably not the best example to use here @bonzobanana as it was always made at a loss.

IIRC, Ford - their Anglia was the direct competitor to the Mini back then - bought one, took it apart, did a costing and came to the conclusion that BMC / British Leyland were off their trolley.

I think that was actually the Cortina as Ford realised they could build a large, conventional car for less expense that they could build a Mini.

The 105E Anglia also entered production in 1959, and may even have already been in production when the Mini started. It was based on the 100E Popular but with more modern styling and an OHV engine and 4 speed box.

The 100E was also sold with the Anglia engine and gearbox for a bit as the 107E, presumably because they never created a 4 door 105E Anglia.
 
a bit off topic but the neighbout of my friend had the one millionth mini ever build

It had a special plaque on the dashboard

it was parked in their drive
when we were teenagers we used to play cricket in his drive - right next to the driveway with the mini init
it just say there - never used - gradually rusting away
the last time I saw it it was just rusted to hell and back

weird - if they had kept it nice or sold it they could have got good money for it

I mean - if they still had it now and it was in one piece then who knows what they could have got for it

anyway - back on topic
 
I think that was actually the Cortina as Ford realised they could build a large, conventional car for less expense that they could build a Mini.

The 105E Anglia also entered production in 1959, and may even have already been in production when the Mini started. It was based on the 100E Popular but with more modern styling and an OHV engine and 4 speed box.

The 100E was also sold with the Anglia engine and gearbox for a bit as the 107E, presumably because they never created a 4 door 105E Anglia.

Was it? I'm not pat on Fords, so may have picked the wrong one. Bad Reynard. :blush:
 
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