craigwend
Grimpeur des terrains plats
The 'straight' lines on most British tracks aren't that long, and often came after a corner which it badly managed, imagine a supertanker navigating a go-kart track...
I seed Ford have just released the all new Capri.
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The 'straight' lines on most British tracks aren't that long, and often came after a corner which it badly managed, imagine a supertanker navigating a go-kart track...
Drago
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I've never driven one but been a passenger in a few, from 30 to 60 they didn't hang around.
I read a few things about people adding twin turbos and a supercharger to get them upto around 300bhp, definitely not for the faint hearted there, even my 1.6 was easy enough to get sideways.
And if you've got enough knowledge and money you could make one competitive in it's class - https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/man-who-took-ford-capri-greatness
derrick
The Glue that binds us together.
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- On the edge of London
Hope it handles better than the old one.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
My mate had a bag of sand in the boot of his to make the back end behave a bit better.
Jameshow
Veteran
You should try a similar made a Capri seem well behaved! Nothing but a couple of 2" chassis members and a blob of fibreglass on top.
figbat
Slippery scientist
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- South Oxfordshire, UK
All you Capri nostalgics seem to have forgotten the genesis of the breed.
Drago
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One legged cat burying a turd on a frozen pond handles better than the old one.
Drago
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The Consul Capri was perhaps rhe genesis of the name, but rhe subsequently Capri, it's mechanical original and intended market were all very different.
Post in thread 'The Capri Lives on - !' https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/the-capri-lives-on.291026/post-6941941
Jenkins
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- Felixstowe
All this cynically-named crap just goes to illustrate the pitiful, precarious state of vehicle manufacturing in general.
Most brands have chequered histories; IIRC Ford and GM have had various government bailouts in the states due to being poorly managed and have been dining out on the spoils of cheap consumer credit for the past two decades; during which time cars have become needlessly complicated and disposable, with manufactures chasing ever-more absurd features to up-sell us these increasingly ridiculously priced turds.
On top of that as if many brands weren't already on the ropes, a lot seem to have been blindsided by the (IMO) ill-advised state-sanctioned push towards electric and fierce competition in this market from Chinese brands.
As others have already pointed out this latest abomination from Ford is just a cynical re-cycling of an old, familiar name to blag attention towards a vehicle that shares pretty much nothing with its earlier namesake other than having four wheels.
Of course Ford have form for this sticking of little paper flags-on-cocktail-sticks bearing the names of past greats into their latest steaming excretions, with the "Mustang Mach-E" and "Puma" being two recent examples.
This is just another area of the modern world where I'm very happy to stand back and let the stupidity run its course to the cost of ill-advised first adopters and the hard-of-thinking... although this abstinence can only go so far and won't lessen the repercussions if some muppet decides to plough into me in one of these two-ton monstrosities.
I had a couple of Mk3 Capris back in the day - IMO style and comfy / relaxed seating position were pretty much all they had going for them; everything else was what you'd expect from an old Ford - crude build and archaic tech with a live rear axle on cart springs, carbs on everything bar the 2.8i and underpowered, boat-anchor, pushrod V6s..
The 2.8i was lauded as the top-end but these engines didn't have a good rep - headline 160bhp but apparently most were more like 145 from the factory.. exhaust ports were siamesed which ruined exhaust gas management, stifling output and despite the near-three-litre capacity and modest output peak torque didn't arrive until well after 4k revs.
Not quite a fair comparison but the slightly newer Mk2 Golf Gti 1.8 16v engine introduced in 1987 gave similar power delivery and close to the same (real-world) output from a 1.8 litre four pot.
I can vouch for the handling issues too; mine had me backwards off a roundabout in the wet on one occasion however it was great fun at low-speeds in snowy car parks.
I'd not say no to an original 3.0l Mk1 but of course like everything Ford they command ridiculous money and realistically there are far better things out there for the money..
Most brands have chequered histories; IIRC Ford and GM have had various government bailouts in the states due to being poorly managed and have been dining out on the spoils of cheap consumer credit for the past two decades; during which time cars have become needlessly complicated and disposable, with manufactures chasing ever-more absurd features to up-sell us these increasingly ridiculously priced turds.
On top of that as if many brands weren't already on the ropes, a lot seem to have been blindsided by the (IMO) ill-advised state-sanctioned push towards electric and fierce competition in this market from Chinese brands.
As others have already pointed out this latest abomination from Ford is just a cynical re-cycling of an old, familiar name to blag attention towards a vehicle that shares pretty much nothing with its earlier namesake other than having four wheels.
Of course Ford have form for this sticking of little paper flags-on-cocktail-sticks bearing the names of past greats into their latest steaming excretions, with the "Mustang Mach-E" and "Puma" being two recent examples.
This is just another area of the modern world where I'm very happy to stand back and let the stupidity run its course to the cost of ill-advised first adopters and the hard-of-thinking... although this abstinence can only go so far and won't lessen the repercussions if some muppet decides to plough into me in one of these two-ton monstrosities.
I had a couple of Mk3 Capris back in the day - IMO style and comfy / relaxed seating position were pretty much all they had going for them; everything else was what you'd expect from an old Ford - crude build and archaic tech with a live rear axle on cart springs, carbs on everything bar the 2.8i and underpowered, boat-anchor, pushrod V6s..
The 2.8i was lauded as the top-end but these engines didn't have a good rep - headline 160bhp but apparently most were more like 145 from the factory.. exhaust ports were siamesed which ruined exhaust gas management, stifling output and despite the near-three-litre capacity and modest output peak torque didn't arrive until well after 4k revs.
Not quite a fair comparison but the slightly newer Mk2 Golf Gti 1.8 16v engine introduced in 1987 gave similar power delivery and close to the same (real-world) output from a 1.8 litre four pot.
I can vouch for the handling issues too; mine had me backwards off a roundabout in the wet on one occasion however it was great fun at low-speeds in snowy car parks.
I'd not say no to an original 3.0l Mk1 but of course like everything Ford they command ridiculous money and realistically there are far better things out there for the money..
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Jenkins
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- Felixstowe
Renault are doing something similar with their latest releases by bringing back the 4 and 5 model numbers. This time the 4 is bigger than the 5 and apparentl a small SUV type thing. By all accounts the new 5 isn't bad, but they blow it by re-using the 'Turbo' name on the performance version. See the screenshot from their web site below - being elecric the car has neither a supercharger OR turbo
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SteveO69
Regular
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- S.W. London / Surrey
Aha, not quite, I present the glorious Skoda Roomster, (although now discontinued).
One common feature of every modern is that the windows by the rear seats are so high up you can barely see out.
