I expect you've all seen this. Driver tweets about a collision.

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The BBC talking about a "war" between cyclists and drivers are way off the mark. It's not a "war"- it's genocide, led by stupid little fartknockers like Emma Way.
 
There are social and legal standards, and many will abide by these, (in fact the majority) because they recognise these standards as reasonable.

Then there are those (like this girl) who believe these social and legal standards do not apply to them and will only observe them if forced to. That "force" is the fear of the consequences of failure to comply

As the community we have every right to expect her behavior, indeed the behaviour of any individual to meet those standards and also have a right to expect censure that reflects the potential consequences.

If as a community we feel the censure is inadequate then there is also a right to question that censure and to seek a level of censure that is apporpriate
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
“What do you think the eventual outcome of the Norwich Police’s investigation into this incident will be?”
Place your bets now:
  • 100:1 - Emma will be charged & successfully prosecuted for dangerous driving & leaving the scene of an accident. She gets a prison sentence, and is banned from driving.
  • 66:1 - Convicted of dangerous driving & leaving the scene of an accident. She gets points on her license, and does community service.
  • 30:1 - Charged as above, but the court accepts her plea of careless driving or driving without due care & attention. She gets points on her license & does community service.
  • 25:1 - Charged & successfully prosecuted for careless driving. She gets points on her license & does community service.
  • 10:1 - Charged with any driving offence, and found guilty, but gets a conditional discharge (i.e. no punishment) due to her “previously good character”.
  • 8:1 - Charged with a driving offence, but the CPS deem there is insufficient evidence to take it to court.
  • 8:1 - Found not guilty. She successfully sues Toby Hockley for the damage to her car.
  • 5:1 - Interviewed by the police, who decide that a caution is the best way to deal with the situation.
  • 5:1 - Interviewed by the police, who decide that their hands are tied. The best they can do is advise Toby to seek a “local resolution“. As part of this, EmmaWay20 reinstates her Twitter account, and tweets, “Sooooo sorry that I knocked you off your bike Toby. xxxxx I’m still ROFL”
  • 1:1 (even money) - Her employers, Larking Gowan conduct a disciplinary investigation and find that she’s committed gross misconduct in bringing them into disrepute. They dismiss her without notice.
(Shamelessly stolen from

http://karlmccracken.sweat365.com/2013/05/21/place-your-bets-please/)
1/5 on. Adopted as UKIP parliamentary candidate
 

Leodis

Veteran
Location
Moortown, Leeds
I think the main problem is that motorists have been the victims for so long, the poor people paying the high fuel prices, the poor motorist paying high "road tax", the poor this and that. They need to get a grip and as a society we need to stop allowing them to be the victims always. Defended and taxed by governments and TV programs supporting their claims
 

avalon

Guru
Location
Australia
Emma Way...:laugh: great name for a cyclist abuser don't you think? Did this even really happen?
I thought it would be a great name for a cycle track.
 

Leodis

Veteran
Location
Moortown, Leeds
2467542 said:
Do you mean being victims, or just thinking that they are?

I think motorists have this defensive mentality from rising costs which make them feel insecure as motorists. They are victims of rising costs but use this issue as a defensive measure against anyone stepping on their roads.
 
You're right that the media (who have the motor car industry and oil lobbyists bending their ear) pander to motorists and reinforce the victim mentality when in reality private motoring receives gigantic subsidies.
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
I sort of understand Risex4's point of view.

There is no doubt that (given the reported facts) she is a selfish, immature and very stupid women. Hopefully the law and the courts will throw everything they can at her.

However, there is a very real risk of her being used as both a hate figure for the more militant cyclists and as some sort of martyr for the anti -cycling arm of the motor press. I don't think that that benefits anyone.
 
He was stoned out of his tiny mind though.

This is what you need for a ploughed field...and talking of stoned out of your mind...

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He looks pretyy stoned too :whistle:
 
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