Helmets; The Paramedics View

[broadway]

You do know that the Daily Heil isn't a reliable source, don't you?

I can't beleive everything I read in newsparer?

She say the same though, but she may be just as unreliable
http://www.tryingmypatients.co.uk/2014/05/the-students-guide-to-blogging.html

But she not trying that hard if this is true, but of course it may be a 2nd hand story.

http://www.tryingmypatients.co.uk/2013/03/please-sir-can-i-have-some-more.html

Which seems to tie in with this, but no names mentioned.

http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/9767842.Drunken_thug_jailed_for_breaking_paramedic_s_arm/

 

[w00hoo_kent]

[QUOTE 3317802, member: 9609"]It begs the question, would she try her hardest to help an injured cyclist?[/QUOTE]

Does it really? I can't stand Cameron, but if I was walking past him on the street I would actually piss on him if he was on fire, despite what I might say in public.

If they are a paramedic, then I would be amazed if they would 'not bother' to try their hardest just because it was an injured cyclist. As I've mentioned before, paramedics deal with drunks and druggies on a day to day basis, often the same ones. Just because they dealt with them last week, doesn't mean they won't try to save their life this week. OK, there was the story about the drunk who would call an ambulance because he lived next to the hospital and it was a free ride home who after a while they took to a completely different hospital 20 miles away. But I'm sure that doesn't really count as he was never actually in need of medical assistance. They will bitch and moan about it afterwards (if they are sensible then to each other and not to the papers) but if they were really that callous they wouldn't have chosen to be a paramedic in the first place. Again, they don't do it for the glamour or the £millions.

 

[jefmcg]

Other page which is worse is still up .

Car drivers have their faults, as do pedestrians, but cyclists seem to be taking over the world without the skills and courtesy that cyclists on the continent have. They are a law unto themselves; they think that the Highway Code doesn't apply to them and cause endless crashes and traffic jams every single day.

http://www.tryingmypatients.co.uk/2012/06/cyclists-take-note.html ?

that's gone too.

still here though http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ists-take-note.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

 

[snorri]

. They will bitch and moan about it afterwards (if they are sensible then to each other and not to the papers) but if they were really that callous they wouldn't have chosen to be a paramedic in the first place..

In every sphere of activity there is a lunatic fringe.

 

[G3CWI]

still here though http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GADdyZzdwgcJ:www.tryingmypatients.co.uk/2012/06/cyclists-take-note.html &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

"That said... I HATE cyclists!" ...it starts badly and goes downhill.

 

[G3CWI]

Imagine being stuck in an ambulance with her all day long. OMG.

 

[w00hoo_kent]

[QUOTE 3318091, member: 9609"]LOL I take it you meant Wouldn't

I am pretty sure you are right though, any paramedic would work dam hard to help anyone in difficulty no matter what - but do they go that extra mile if it is someone they despise? I'm an untrusting sort of soul aren't.[/QUOTE]
I meant would, I'll only tell you I wouldn't, I'd relent if he was actually there.

I think they would do everything they could, I don't think they would hold something back based on your personal choices. I've known a few paramedics, but naturally not all of them. Again, if they were going to hold back, cycling would be well done the list of triggers.

Still, you could always carry a questionnaire and refuse treatment if they didn't seem trustworthy.

 

[glenn forger]

I dunno if I've got this right, but..

Suppose a paramedic was racist. Against The Welsh. Suppose the paramedic uses their blog to attack Welsh people, call them idiots, asks why they insist on wearing those funny clothes, allows comments on the blog that say a dead Welsh person is Darwinism in action, calls Welsh people killed on the roads "roadkill", titles the blog page "I hate Welsh people" etc etc etc. This is on a blog that has "NHS" written all over it. It's a rather tortuous analogy, but you get my drift?

 

[Drago]

I'd love to know what qualifies a paramedic to talk about the benefits of bike helmets...

The same thing that qualifies others to say there are no safety benefits.

 

[TheDoctor]

The same thing that qualifies others to say there are no safety benefits.

OK, I'll bite.
If helmets had safety benefits, you'd see them in places that have helmet compulsion - like Australia and NZ.
And, however much the pro-helmet lobby dislike the fact, there is no such benefit visible in the accident statistics.
But, as I said before, wear a helmet if you like. If you believe it makes you feel safer, then great.
Just don't try and shove compulsion at me. Is that really so much to ask?

 

[TheDoctor]

Here we go, have a reference. And that, by the way, is what qualifies me to say that helmets have no measurable safety benefits - my ability to do five seconds worth of Google-fu some research to back up my opinion. If you can produce evidence - hard statistics, not the opinion of a ranting paramedic - then crack on

Even after 20 years and plenty of research, there is still no compelling evidence that Australia's compulsory helmet laws have reduced injury rates on a population-wide basis.

While there is evidence that wearing a helmet will provide some protection from a knock to the head, the benefit is small. Severe head injuries amongst cyclists are not particularly common, and helmets do not prevent all or even a high proportion of those that might occur, but rather provide some marginal decrease in the likelihood of injury.

Source - https://ipa.org.au/publications/2019/australia's-helmet-law-disaster.

 

[TheDoctor]

Honestly, it's like the time I tried to convince some retard that the Moon landings weren't faked, before I realized that I couldn't even convince him that New Zealand existed, even though I'd been there...

 

[TheDoctor]

Well, that was the problem. For all I knew, they flew the plane round in circles for a bit, changed all the street signs and built a volcano just offshore at Brighton.
Except...the Moon was the other way up.

 

[glenn forger]

I preferred it when I thought she was a whackjob fantasist. This poisonous liar really does work as a paramedic, using her patients as fodder for her worthless blog. Even the children.

 

[mickle]

If, as she claims, she changes the sex of all the people she mentions. Then it's pretty easy to establish the sex of all of the people she mentions... There being only two genders and all (present company excepted).