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ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
British Gas have "reversed" all my bills since November 1st. I am currently £1095.18 in credit.

This company is unbelievable. The sheer levels of incompetence are breathtaking.

Having failed for the 3rd time in a year to install a working smart gas meter and having now killed the formerly working smart electricity meter, BG have just contacted me about the process..."Tell us how you feel"... :whistle:

I think I will tell them exactly how I feel! :laugh:
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Having failed for the 3rd time in a year to install a working smart gas meter and having now killed the formerly working smart electricity meter, BG have just contacted me about the process..."Tell us how you feel"... :whistle:

I think I will tell them exactly how I feel! :laugh:
Let them know how you really feel then.
They always appreciate honest reviews/reports.
 
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Does anyone have real world values for cooking a chicken in a fan oven as opposed to a gas oven, say for 2 hours?
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Does anyone have real world values for cooking a chicken in a fan oven as opposed to a gas oven, say for 2 hours?

need to know the wattage of the oven to work that out....if its a 1kw oven, then thats 2kwh so 60p, for gas it would be 14p

think i got that right, but im sure there will be some that will come along and put it right if not
 
need to know the wattage of the oven to work that out....if its a 1kw oven, then thats 2kwh so 60p, for gas it would be 14p

think i got that right, but im sure there will be some that will come along and put it right if not

The oven heater will run continuously until it nears the set temperature. It should then begin to adjust the mark:space ratio ( heat is on vs off) to prevent an overshoot. It will then cut in and out during the cooking time to maintain temperature. It is not therefore using its full power continuously.

There are a other factors, including heat lost and hysteresis of the thermostat that will vary depending on the oven.

Constants will be the energy the fan and oven light uses.
 
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Does anyone have real world values for cooking a chicken in a fan oven as opposed to a gas oven, say for 2 hours?

Gas is cheaper than electric so that would be cheaper than an electric oven.

Do you mean an air fryer which is basically a small electric oven which would be cheaper than both.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
The oven element cycles on and off so simple "cooking time x wattage" does not work.

https://blog.thermoworks.com/thermometer/thermal-secrets-oven-calibration/

maybe a should have added the word APPROX...as yes i do know it will cycle on and off, but we dont know how many times that would be. so just a simple calculation shows, gas would be cheaper
 
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I meant a conventional fan electric oven, in comparison to a conventional gas oven, do they electrically fan assist them now? bearing in mind there would be the cost of buying the oven & then handing over a kidney to the plumber to put a feed back into the kitchen. It seems like it's one of those yes you would be better off, but it's going to cost more to be better off.
 
Yes, fan assisted gas ovens are available. Never tried, ir even seen, one.

Our household preference is a gas hob and electric oven. The former for greater controllability and the latter for more even cooking.

Induction hobs look interesting and may be a viable alternative, and possibly something we fit in the holiday home we are in the process of buying (as it has no mains gas).
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
You are spot on with this. My household can fund, I deliberately avoid using "afford", the current increases from October 1st assuming the government does nothing and there is no change.

Aside from making what economies we can at home, which frankly won't make a big difference, we've started to budget our discretionary spending to cope with what is still to come. This energy cost crisis is not going away in 12 months but will be with us for 5-10 years. We're budgeting discretionary spending now in preparation for the future. It is far better to be proactive than reactive.

As an example, and to the amusement of some, I've slashed my cycle cafe spend. I now carry all the food I need and restrict myself to coffee, occasionally with tea cake, when we stop. This is a saving of £750/800pa. On a big ride, 100+ miles, I will have beans on toast as I have health issues which make it essential I eat.

Such choices have a much wider impact than my own budget which is what makes the issue so critical for our government to get right.
Assuming the October prices go ahead I can see me stopping cake stops and club rides altogether
 

vickster

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Save some money by stopping eating meat? Apparently chicken has got very costly recently :okay: plant protein is cheaper and doesn't need to be cooked for 2 hours :okay:
 
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