Energy bill increases
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Tell me more, we, using the royal we as I struggle with toast, use the oven, not to bad with roast veg, but on it's own it has to be expensive
presta
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Tom...
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I'm referring to £ per gram of protein, not £ per gram of mass
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- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
Oh come on! 😁 😁 😁
Huge announcements in The Commons today and here we are talking about cooking chickens.
Surely there is something to say without straying into darkside territory?
PS: this is not an "arsey" post, I am genuinely a bit perplexed.
PPS: I do realise that it is not for me to dictate the discussion so I am happy to bugger off. 😁 😁 😁
Huge announcements in The Commons today and here we are talking about cooking chickens.
Surely there is something to say without straying into darkside territory?
PS: this is not an "arsey" post, I am genuinely a bit perplexed.
PPS: I do realise that it is not for me to dictate the discussion so I am happy to bugger off. 😁 😁 😁
bills will be lower than the october rate, but still not as low as they should be........
PaulSB
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- Chorley, Lancashire
Very simple. Slice one onion and a few carrots and place them in the bottom of the cooker. Brown the chicken in a frying pan for a few minutes (optional), mix some butter and dried herbs together, rub the mixture over the chicken breasts, season with salt and pepper. Pop in to the slow cooker, we usually put it on the auto setting for 9/10 hours.
We're two in our household. A £4.99 chicken from Aldi will give two "roast" dinners, followed by cold chicken for lunch or a chicken curry the next day. The bones, meat scraps and stock can be further used to make about two litres of chicken stock. This we usually eat as a winter lunch with Orzo pasta cooked in the stock. Basically two meals and +/- 4 soup servings (lunches) for a fiver.
Alex321
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- South Wales
Just looking at the first entry, that is not at all accurate.
Flour retails on average at about £0.60/Kg for supermarket own-brands, and 10% of flour is protein.
So to get 1Kg of protein would cost £6.00, not £3.06 as suggested.
how much does that slow cooker cost to run for those 9/10hrs
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
I think one of the big realisations that was emphasised is that it is a long-term project to manage and smooth price volatility in the energy markets as well as shoring up our ability to be self sufficient as far as possible.
With that in mind this is a long-haul "project" for all of us.
And the long-term domestic wins really sit within our overall individual budgets.
I was talking with Stepson & LT Partner the other day and they were well into the minutiae of electricity saving and they were going around in circles.
Quick wins:
5 iPhone contracts in the house (them and 3 teens).
Full Sky package.
Full complement of Netflix, Disney and Prime.
They spend £90 per week on cigarettes between them.
They have heaps of takeaways.
She is as lazy as they come and cba to get a job.
And it is whinge, whinge, whinge.
Neither are receptive to any simple lifestyle changes.
How do you help people like this?
PaulSB
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- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
OK. My view is the £2500 cap will result in confusing headlines which could lead the majority to wrongly believe their bill can be no more than £2500 - don't underestimate either people's inability to understand these matters or to hear what they want to hear rather than what is said. I expected my household to be around the average but I know it isn't in energy consumption and cost as I've done the sums. Millions of people will not or cannot do the maths.
I had hoped to see a much more creative approach to the issue; one which addressed usage, conserved energy, rewarded those who made the greatest effort and penalised those who waste energy. For me the solution would be to significantly reduce the daily standing charge, increase energy unit cost to reflect and compensate for this but to apply unit costs on a sliding scale. Everyone should pay the same amount for a basic level of energy, the average shall we say, beyond this level of usage the unit cost would increase significantly so high users pay more. This approach helps those on lower incomes and provides a real incentive to reduce energy consumption.
It might also be worthwhile applying an additional "green levy" to those consuming above the average on the basis of "let the polluter pay."
Possibly the above is rubbish but it is at least creative thinking, not entirely original on my part, which is more than our government have been with today's announcement.
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PaulSB
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- Chorley, Lancashire
According to the instruction booklet the cooker "uses no more electricity than a light bulb." According to my British Gas tariff details I pay 28p per kWh. My BG bill states: 1 kWh will power a 40 watt light bulb for 25 hours. Which means if the cooker is equivalent to a 40W bulb the cost for ten hours use is 28p / 25 = 11.2p
I've also read a 100W bulb consumes 876 kWh if switched on 24/7. Daily consumption then is 876/365 = 2.4kWh. Hourly consumption is 0.1kWh so my slow cooker over ten hours with this example is costing 28p for ten hours.
A touch cheaper than the gas cooker I suspect.
Alex321
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- South Wales
Why not look at the plate on the actual cooker, rather than relying on the rather vague "no more than a lightbulb"? The plate on the device will show the wattage it uses.
PaulSB
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- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
I did. The plate says 135W. I know this means 135 Watts but nothing else. Is it usage per hour, day, year? Truly means absolutely nothing to me and I guess 99% of the population.
PaulSB
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- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
Done a bit more Googling and found a site which says the plate rating represents the amount of energy to run an appliance for one hour. So 135W = 0.135kWh @ 28p per kWh for ten hours is 0.135 x 10 x 28 = 37.8p
