Doping in other sports

[Strathlubnaig]

Not sure what you mean by "even" baseball. It has a long and inglorious history of doping. Those home run sluggers need to get those unfeasible biceps somewhere.

Well, most ball players are not exactly endurance athletes. Also today, http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/carter-ashton-leafs-forward-suspended-20-games-1.2826557 and in hockey that is less surprising, shame all round.

 

[SWSteve]

American football is rife with performance enhancing drugs. And when punishments are 2 games, why wouldn't you dope

 

[Dogtrousers]

Incidentally baseball came up with an interesting approach for how to treat the record books for dopers, by putting an asterisk next to them. Barry Bonds' home run record is often considered to have an asterisk. It dates back to some guy whose name I forget beating Babe Ruth's record - not by cheating, but by having a longer season - and getting an asterisk next to his stats. I'm not sure how official or how colloquial this all is. I don't know whether there are any real record books with real asterisks.

I wonder if ASO considered this approach to you-know-who? (And a few others)

 

[Hont]

Well, most ball players are not exactly endurance athletes.

Neither are track sprinters, weighlifters, or field athletes.

The fact is that if drugs will provide a benefit, there will be someone taking some. And Dogtrousers is right, it's not a coincidence that the record for home runs in a season stood for 37 years, then was broken by two players in the same year. The numbers more recently - like cycling - are more credible but that doesn't mean someone's not taking something.

 

[Hont]

It dates back to some guy whose name I forget beating Babe Ruth's record - not by cheating, but by having a longer season - and getting an asterisk next to his stats. I'm not sure how official or how colloquial this all is. I don't know whether there are any real record books with real asterisks.

Good knowledge. It was Roger Maris, and he was asterisked for the reason you state. None of the official records asterisk Barry Bonds, though, despite fans holding up asterisk banners as he was setting the record.

 

[Shadow]

Well, most ball players are not exactly endurance athletes. Also today, http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/carter-ashton-leafs-forward-suspended-20-games-1.2826557 and in hockey that is less surprising, shame all round.

Not sure what you mean by 'less surprising'.
Regardless, this suspension, like many in other sports especially North America, is almost meaningless. A 20 game ban is less than a quarter of the number of games in the 'regular' season! (NHL season is 82 games, followed by playoffs). Ashton is a marginal player, so will not make much of a difference to the Leafs over the next 20 games.

 

[Strathlubnaig]

Not sure what you mean by 'less surprising'.
Regardless, this suspension, like many in other sports especially North America, is almost meaningless. A 20 game ban is less than a quarter of the number of games in the 'regular' season! (NHL season is 82 games, followed by playoffs). Ashton is a marginal player, so will not make much of a difference to the Leafs over the next 20 games.

Pretty obvious really, hockey is far more demanding than any ball game, but Okay whatever. Anyway, the Leafs will likely not make the playoffs anyways, as per.

 

[User169]

World No 1 badders players has just tested +ve for dexamethazone.

Don't worry though, his national association is fully behind him.

 

[smutchin]

surprised that it was found in his system a month after treatment for a thigh injury.....

Surprised it was found as opposed to surprised it was there, hmmm?

 

[400bhp]

Germany set to make doping a crime.

 

[Ganymede]

Germany set to make doping a crime.

Ooer! Well, it is fraud. Quite a step to take though.

I noticed that

"Foreign athletes caught doping in Germany would also risk prison."

I wonder if German athletes doping abroad would find themselves involuntary expatriates as they would get banged up on their return?

It will provoke interesting scrutiny on the scientific standard of the data.

 

[Crackle]

Not doping but Vanessa Mae got banned for four years for rigging her qualification races.


Pfffffffftttttttt…… .


And she still finished last.

 

[Ganymede]

Not doping but Vanessa Mae got banned for four years for rigging her qualification races.


Pfffffffftttttttt…… .


And she still finished last.

She won't care, she just wanted the experience of competing at the Olympics and won't be trying again. I feel sorry for anyone she butted out though, selfish cow. Even if you come last, it's an achievement to get there so someone was cheated out of their place.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

She won't care, she just wanted the experience of competing at the Olympics and won't be trying again. I feel sorry for anyone she butted out though, selfish cow. Even if you come last, it's an achievement to get there so someone was cheated out of their place.

Not really. Thailand would not have had any competitors in skiing otherwise, and the absolute numbers are not limited in that way. I'm not saying what she did was right, but she certainly isn't the first Olympian to have got there by money and connections (that was once practically the only way anyone got to the Olympics after all...), and she won't be the last.

 

[Beebo]

Eric the Eel anyone.
I could swim 100m quicker than him. He sets off like a rocket, then realises that 100m is quite a long way and almost sinks by the end!
The bit at the end where they bring up the National Record line is fantastic.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbKCHsRIyk