Yeah, but, despite my intellectual superiority to the bin man which I'm just guessing is fact, the great leveller to our spat and my ultimate victory is that he was in work mode, wide awake, all Hi-vized up and I was half asleep and in my jim jams and dressing gown. Also, as I've pointed out already, my mistake wasn't not being able to follow a simple rule, it was forgetting to push my bin the required 2.5 feet from the end of my drive to the pavement. Adrian kindly backed me up stating that I must have my waste under my control according to the environment act 1990 so I could argue the bin should remain on my property until it is collected and as it was right on the periphery of my property I'd suggest it was the legal place to leave it for collection. The bin wasn't anywhere near my Audi Q7 4.2 TDI Quattro S Line so the bin man had no cause not to take it for fear of scratching my new motor.