Cut up on Roundabout - partly my fault? (video)

[Origamist]

Those at fault cannot pass judgement on other people.

You sound like Judge Dredd.

 

[thomas]

Now I understand all that, but if the driver slammed on his brakes and someone had gone up his chuff, our be-camera'd hero would be off into the sunset wondering what all the fuss is about wouldn't he?

There was no need to slam on his brakes, I didn't cut in front that late. He just needed to slow down a little bit.

It's no good filming our commutes, putting up drivers for judgment and slagging them off, then when one of us balls it up, putting up the film
and then slagging off the driver for sounding his horn.

He was still sounding it after I had stopped and moved to the steered to the side to let him past!

Bear in mind we shout at people all the time (well I do if someone cuts me up). Like I said earlier, Thomas seems to have taken exception at being shouted at, watch his first video, he gives the girl right gobful!!

I don't make a thing of yelling or giving a "right gobful". Moments before I thought I was going to be going over the bonnet hence my reaction. Watch the second video, he just tells me off with his finger - he was never worried I was going to hurt him, he was just making a point.

 

[tdr1nka]

My thinking on the guy accelerating on the roundabout is that you generally speed up to change lanes and exit a roundabout.

I honestly appreciate you've admitted to making a foolhardy mistake but you should also have the humility to accept the drivers anger at your thoughtlessness.

Consider the fact that you frightened the sh*t out of him.

 

[4F]

7 pages about you taking a shortcut across a roundabout and then complaining about the driver sounding his horn

The world has gone mad

 

[thomas]

How do you know he didn't need to brake sharply, you weren't in the car, you do not know the state of his car.

Think, "Moments before I thought I was going to be going over the bonnet hence my reaction." you made an instinctive reaction. He thought you were going over his bonnet, he made an instinctive and reactive decision.

Do you drive by the way?

I do drive and as I was there I can tell you that he wouldn't of had to brake sharply...hence he didn't!! I already said he carried on honking after I stopped... I'm sure you're going to make some irrelevant comment about my driving now...??

My thinking on the guy accelerating on the roundabout is that you generally speed up to change lanes and exit a roundabout.

I honestly appreciate you've admitted to making a foolhardy mistake but you should also have the humility to accept the drivers anger at your thoughtlessness.

Consider the fact that you frightened the sh*t out of him.

I do appreciate your view, but from being there he didn't seem scared he seemed to be making a point. I guess the camera can't show that, but that's my opinion, being there first hand. I would much rather of had the chance to have apologised properly (my apology in the video, if you can call it that, was more me being pissed off with his reaction). The speeding up occurred once I was there, when he could of seen me, rather than just to get off the roundabout or at least he continued to speed up when he saw me so he could make a point, rather than just lift off and let me safely get out of his way.

 

[Origamist]

7 pages about you taking a shortcut across a roundabout and then complaining about the driver sounding his horn

The world has gone mad

There's 2 RaB vids in this thread - so 7 pages is nothing for a cycle-cam double whammy. This thread has legs, mark my words.

 

[4F]

There's 2 RaB vids in this thread - so 7 pages is nothing for a cycle-cam double whammy. This thread has legs, mark my words.

Sorry, just found the 2nd video now . I think more roundabout training would be a good starting point.

 

[thomas]

Sorry, just found the 2nd video now . I think more roundabout training would be a good starting point.

I know my mistakes, it's just the fact they happened in the same week which makes me look like I don't understand roundabouts. I don't show the other 30 times that week I make it around them successfully or the however many thousands of times I've gone around roundabouts without a problem....if there was a 7 page thread on that the world would have gone made :P

 

[tdr1nka]

The speeding up occurred once I was there, when he could of seen me, rather than just to get off the roundabout or at least he continued to speed up when he saw me so he could make a point, rather than just lift off and let me safely get out of his way.

You are very unsafely assuming the actions of a car that has right of way, why on this good earth should he have given way to you? Courtesy?

He may have accelerated thinking you might have had the sense to slow or stop rather than expect him to give up his right of way, this only exaggerates your error.

You are also very lucky he didn't just get out of his car and lamp you.
Sorry but you c*cked up on this one, principles mean little when you're dead.

 

[4F]

I know my mistakes, it's just the fact they happened in the same week which makes me look like I don't understand roundabouts. I don't show the other 30 times that week I make it around them successfully or the however many thousands of times I've gone around roundabouts without a problem.

Fair point, but to be honest I think the bloke sounding his horn was justified. Look at it from his point of view, if things had gone tits up and he had hit you then you may not have been here to tell the tale. The driver would then have to live with this for the rest of his life.

 

[Eat MY Dust]

You are also very lucky he didn't just get out of his car and lamp you.

Why because he made an error of judgement?!?!? What a world we live in when you have to live in fear of being assaulted for pulling out onto a RAB early.

 

[col]

Why because he made an error of judgement?!?!? What a world we live in when you have to live in fear of being assaulted for pulling out onto a RAB early.

If you pull onto a roundabout early your likely to get assualted by a car, never mind the driver. You pull out anywhere too early and your taking risks. The solution is to wait until there is a safe gap isnt it?

 

[Eat MY Dust]

If you pull onto a roundabout early your likely to get assualted by a car, never mind the driver. You pull out anywhere too early and your taking risks. The solution is to wait until there is a safe gap isnt it?

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that waiting for a safe gap is obviously correct. But for drivers to go around assualting cyclists for making a mistake and this being par for the course (apparently) seams a bit overkill to me.

 

[col]

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that waiting for a safe gap is obviously correct. But for drivers to go around assualting cyclists for making a mistake and this being par for the course (apparently) seams a bit overkill to me.

Unfortunately there are some nutters out there, but that asside there are times an innocent driver will go into a cyclist pulling out in front of them because they are checking road signs or looking for thier exit, and not expecting some one to pull out when its generally seen as too early or too late whichever way you look at it. It works both ways too, if a driver makes a mistake the cyclist can react badly to it, it puts it into perspective from both sides doesnt it?

 

[Eat MY Dust]

if a driver makes a mistake the cyclist can react badly to it, it puts it into perspective from both sides doesnt it?

you're correct, although it has been a while since I've tried to drag a driver from their car and strangle them with their seatbelt!!