Cricket thread

[Beebo]

Amazing stat (when you fisrt hear it ...)!!!! In that test ENG only batted once, declaring on 600-something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1938#First_Test

So this is their first time scoring 400 in both inningses!

Amazing that they have never managed that before.
Goes to show how English conditions are usually fair to both bat and ball.
But also that scoring rates are so much quicker now.
They scored 1200 runs in just over 3 days.

 

[T4tomo]

Also worth bearing in mind, that until relatively recently, scoring rates were such that 3 scores of 400+ would take best part of 4 days, probably more to score (90 overs in a day). The side batting 3rd would also be looking to set a target so if say scored A scored 460, and B replied with 410, team A may well have say declared innings 3 on 350 with a lead of 400 in an attempt to force a result on the final day

So whilst it might sound like an amazing stat, it makes sense that its a rare occurrence.

 

[Beebo]

And Root is just 13 runs behind Lara and just 60 runs from 12,000 on the all time list.
I can’t see him getting to no.1 but no. 2 is a realistic target.
There is fewer that 100 runs between Ponting in 2nd place with 13,378 and Dravid in 4th on 13,288.

 

[newts]

Amazing stat (when you fisrt hear it ...)!!!! In that test ENG only batted once, declaring on 600-something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1938#First_Test

So this is their first time scoring 400 in both inningses!

I'm sure England have scored 400+ in both innings when batting first before at home but you have to ask Andy Zalrzman to check the stats for confirmation😁 How did he even think to look up 3 x 400run ininings
It's non many years ago that 300 runs in day was considered a bit excessive in a test match.

 

[Alex321]

I'm sure England have scored 400+ in both innings when batting first before at home but you have to ask Andy Zalrzman to check the stats for confirmation😁 How did he even think to look up 3 x 400run ininings
It's non many years ago that 300 runs in day was considered a bit excessive in a test match.

It was him who said this was the first time they have ever scored 400+ in both innings.,

 

[newts]

It was him who said this was the first time they have ever scored 400+ in both innings.,

He said it was only the second time in England at the first 3 innings of a test match were >400 runs? I didn't see any post about it being the first time England had achieved 2 x 400, if its out can someone post a link?

 

[Alex321]

He said it was only the second time in England at the first 3 innings of a test match were >400 runs?
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In that post, yes.

But in the BBC commentary., they said that it was the first time England had ever scored 400+ in both innings. I thought they mentioned that stat as coming from Zaltzman, but replaying it, they didn't.

25:50 Here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episo...t-indies-2024-second-test-day-four-highlights

 

[newts]

Thanks, I didn't realise there were both unusual stats for the day. 👍

 

[Beebo]

I'm sure England have scored 400+ in both innings when batting first before at home but you have to ask Andy Zalrzman to check the stats for confirmation😁 How did he even think to look up 3 x 400run ininings

I think he’s a great addition to TMS.
He brings the perfect mix of intelligence, humour and knowledge.
It’s what makes TMS such an iconic program.
It never takes itself too seriously.

 

[Salty seadog]

I was having a post work stroll last night and happened upon a game at the cricket ground over the road, where all the layers seemed to be of an certain age. A few enquiries elicited it was Herts vs Suffolk & Norfolk over 70's county match.

@Salty seadog Your father was playing for England in this category wasn't he I seem to recall?

I watched the last 20 overs with S&N chasing down a modest target of 147 in 40 overs with a couple of overs to spare, but only 2 wickets in hand, indebted to an unbeaten 50 from their No 6 and too many double bounce no-balls from the Herts attack. They closed out with a 3. Both batsmen and fielders were hoping it went for 4, it didn't, it stopped short in front of the pavilion and took the poor chap fielding at mid on quite a while to retreat back to retrieve it, and bayed on by teammates the batsmen had to run / walk 3, before starting the long trudge off.

Indeed he does, he plays for Kent over 60s on a Tuesday, Kent over 70s on a Thursday and turns out for his lifelong club of Bettshanger Colliery Welfare Club on the weekend.

He's vice captain of England over 70s and we are hosting the world Cup kicking off on Sunday to Sri Lanka, then I think India on Tuesday and Pakistan on Thursday. New Zeeland, Australia and Canada are also coming over.

 

[albion]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-franchises-eye-controlling-stakes-in-hundred-teams-1444305

Seems the IPL franchises want to own the teams. I am not even watching, it heavily threatening the existance of Durham CC.

 

[albion]

Picked up by the media.
https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/the-hundred-expansion-danger-english-cricket-3186533

We have 18 first class counties which the ECC see as the problem. A league system was the fairer way to go rather than the more deadly underhand closed shop franchise system.
More background. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/a...nchises-english-and-wales-cricket-board-stake
So, did the clubs agree? I doubt it.

 

[Sterlo]

Talking about Murali as you were earlier, just found this stat table of his test wickets, it says he's the only bowler in test history to have taken 10 match wickets against every other test nation and his economy rate ain't bad either

 

[Beebo]

Talking about Murali as you were earlier, just found this stat table of his test wickets, it says he's the only bowler in test history to have taken 10 match wickets against every other test nation and his economy rate ain't bad either
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I still think he chucked it.
And even if he wasn’t technically a chucker his action was so exaggerated to basically be as good as chucking it.
His success was down to the fact that batsmen had no experience of playing against a similar bowler on very spin friendly pitches.
I rate Warne as a better bowler.

 

[Sterlo]

I still think he chucked it.
And even if he wasn’t technically a chucker his action was so exaggerated to basically be as good as chucking it.
His success was down to the fact that batsmen had no experience of playing against a similar bowler on very spin friendly pitches.
I rate Warne as a better bowler.

I agree he had a strange action but nothing as bad as Malinga, his action should have been banned in my eyes.