Covid vaccine.

[Notafettler]

It would be a bit difficult to maintain the principles of informed consent and bodily autonomy for your patients while removing it from your staff.

No it wouldn't. They are the patient not you.
You see nothing wrong with putting peoples life at risk? So no need to take a covid vaccination?

 

[Globalti]

BBC announcing this morning that the vaccine will need to be stored at minus 80c. This means you won't be able to nip to your local surgery for the two shots, you will have to travel to a specially built regional cryogenic facility, twice, at the right interval, making sure you get the same vaccine if others are available by then. Most of the population will have to do this during the summer before winter 2021 arrives.

 

[Mo1959]

BBC announcing this morning that the vaccine will need to be stored at minus 80c. This means you won't be able to nip to your local surgery for the two shots, you will have to travel to a specially built regional cryogenic facility, twice, at the right interval, making sure you get the same vaccine if others are available by then. Most of the population will have to do this during the summer before winter 2021 arrives.

Article I saw the other day said that was for initial storage but could then be stored in a fridge for several days, can't remember exact number at the moment, and then administered in surgeries, etc I'm sure

 

[srw]

Article I saw the other day said that was for initial storage but could then be stored in a fridge for several days, can't remember exact number at the moment, and then administered in surgeries, etc I'm sure

Quite. It's why the government have taken the unusually sensible step of looking for local GP surgery hubs rather than dishing it out to all the surgeries.

It is also only one vaccine supplier out of what are likely to be half a dozen. Another, expected to announce success reasonably soon only requires storage at ordinary freezer temperature.

 

[PaulSB]

Er, the BBC announced this morning that there's a small hitch because the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80c, meaning you won't be able to nip to the surgery for your two shots. You will have to go to a regional cryo facility, twice, at the right interval, ensuring you get the same vaccine if others are available by then. This will need to be organised next summer before winter 2021 causes a new spike.

I'm not sure your post is accurate. The BBC and other major news outlets reported a very different process previously. I can't see anything on the BBC website to update this today.

Previously it's been reported the vaccine requires storage at -80⁰C. Pfizer have developed a suitcase sized transport box which carries 5000 doses at the required temperature which is maintained for up to ten days.

Once delivered to a distribution centre, e.g. a GP practice, the vaccine can be stored in a fridge at 2-8⁰C for five days.

Manufacture is based in Belgium, Germany and the US which is presumably at least in part to shorten delivery times.

Can you post a link to the story please

 

[winjim]

Another vaccine trial about to go into phase 3. Might still be recruiting if anyone fancies a roll of the dice...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-in-phase-3-trial?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

[Globalti]

There's no link, I heard it on BBC Sounds at about 3.00 this morning.

So the 15 minute observation time is likely to present a greater challenge.

 

[winjim]

For the slightly ominous sounding 'regional cryo facility' you can probably subsitute 'hospital' although not all have -80C storage capacity.

Not sure what MHRA regs are like though. For example our labs have -80C storage but pharmacy doesn't.

 

[lazybloke]

My son is in self-isolation for the 2nd time.
Once again, there's been a confirmed case in his school year. Well, 5 cases in 2 year groups, so that's 500 children at home.
He couldn't wipe the grin off his face.


I'm not aware of any plan to vaccinate children, and they'd be the lower priority anyway which means this virus will continue circulating in schools for the foreseable future.

So tell me how GCSEs and A-Levels can be sat normally in 2021?
Prepare for another exams debacle.

 

[Notafettler]

Another vaccine trial about to go into phase 3. Might still be recruiting if anyone fancies a roll of the dice...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-in-phase-3-trial?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

I have volunteered already but I have just done it again using a different email address.
May try a third if that one works.

 

[Notafettler]

Yep different email addresses work. Will add a few more.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Hancock refuses to rule out compulsory vaccinations! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/04/matt-hancock-wont-rule-out-compulsory-vaccinations Very sinister, in my opinion! 👎

 

[DaveReading]

Hancock refuses to rule out compulsory vaccinations! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/04/matt-hancock-wont-rule-out-compulsory-vaccinations Very sinister, in my opinion! 👎

Note the date on that article. He's had time to make half-a-dozen U-turns since then.

 

[Drago]

Not sure how Handcock will reconcile that with both our own domestic law and human rights law.

 

[oreo_muncher]

Everyone on here seems to be only talking about Pfizer but is ignoring Astrazeneca, which is the vaccine that the UK Gov purchased the most of. Pfizer relies on RNA whilst Astrazeneca took a more traditional approach. The 2 vaccine work in 2 different ways and no one knows who will be getting which vaccine.